From: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Do not decay new task load on first enqueue
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:21:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160927192107.GB16071@codeblueprint.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtCi_ekH0ENU+oUJsQka2XagvY=gk=RDZRfpLFWypKrroQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 23 Sep, at 04:30:25PM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>
> Does it mean that you can see the perf drop that you mention below
> because load is decayed to 1002 instead of staying to 1024 ?
The performance drop comes from the fact that enqueueing/dequeueing a
task with load 1002 during fork() results in a zero runnable_load_avg,
which signals to the load balancer that the CPU is idle, so the next
time we fork() we'll pick the same CPU to enqueue on -- and the cycle
continues.
I mention the performance regression mainly because it's the thing
that led to me discovering this bug, and only a little as support for
applying the patch ;-)
> 1002 mainly comes from period_contrib being set to 1023 during
> init_entity_runnable_average so any delay longer than 1us between
> attach_entity_load_avg and enqueue_entity_load_avg will trig the decay
> of the load from 1024 to 1002
Right.
> But this patch doesn't change the behavior of runnable_load_avg, isn't
> it ? it has only an impact on the initial value of p->se.avg.load_avg
> when the task is enqueued.
Correct. It isn't guaranteed that runnable_load_avg will be non-zero
with this patch applied, that was just the case for the workload and
the machine I tested.
> > Arguably the real problem is that balancing on fork doesn't look at
> > the blocked contribution of tasks, only the runnable load and it's
> > possible for the two metrics to be wildly different on a relatively
> > idle system.
>
> fair enough
I did have some patches somewhere to address this. I'll have to dig
them out.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-27 19:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-23 11:58 [PATCH] sched/fair: Do not decay new task load on first enqueue Matt Fleming
2016-09-23 14:30 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-27 13:48 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-27 19:24 ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-27 19:21 ` Matt Fleming [this message]
2016-09-28 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-28 11:06 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-28 11:31 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 11:46 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 12:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-04 21:25 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-04 20:16 ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-28 12:27 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 13:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-29 16:15 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-03 13:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-09-28 17:59 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-09-28 19:37 ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-30 20:30 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-09 3:39 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-10-10 10:01 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 10:09 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-10-11 10:27 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 12:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-10 13:54 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-10 18:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 9:44 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-11 10:39 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 10:11 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-10 17:34 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 10:24 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-11 13:14 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-11 18:57 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-12 7:41 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 15:19 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 10:29 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 11:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 11:29 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-18 12:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19 6:38 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-19 9:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-09 16:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-04 20:11 ` Matt Fleming
2016-10-09 5:57 ` [lkp] [sched/fair] f54c5d4e28: hackbench.throughput 10.6% improvement kernel test robot
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