From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Calvin Owens <calvinowens@fb.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/7] printk: use alt_printk to handle printk() recursive calls
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:43:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160930024307.GE547@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160929132502.GG26796@pathway.suse.cz>
On (09/29/16 15:25), Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Tue 2016-09-27 23:22:30, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > RFC
> >
> > This patch set extends a lock-less NMI per-cpu buffers idea to
> > handle recursive printk() calls. The basic mechanism is pretty much the
> > same -- at the beginning of a deadlock-prone section we switch to lock-less
> > printk callback, and return back to a default printk implementation at the
> > end; the messages are getting flushed to a logbuf buffer from a safer
> > context.
>
> I was skeptical but I really like this way now.
>
> The switching of the buffers is a bit hairy in this version but I
> think that we could make it much better.
>
> Other than that it looks like a big win. It kills a lot of
> printk-related pain points. And it will not be that complicated
> after all.
many thanks for looking at this train wreck.
so, like I said, it addresses printk()-recursion in *ideally* quite
a minimalistic way -- just several alt_printk_enter/exit calls in
printk.c, without ever touching any other parts of the kernel.
gunning down printk deadlocks in general, however, requires much more
effort; or even a completely different approach.
a) a lock-less printk() by default
um, `#define printk alt_printk'. but this will break printk() from irq.
and the ordering of messages from per-cpu buffers may be far from correct.
b) combining a DEFERRED_WARN + alt_printk
DEFERRED_WARN potentially is a never ending thing. we can add some
lockdep annotations, perhaps, and hope that error handling branches
that may contain WARN_ONs/printk-s will be executed with prove_locking
enabled on someone's machine.
c) ...
-ss
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-30 2:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-27 14:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/7] printk: use alt_printk to handle printk() recursive calls Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-27 14:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] printk: use vprintk_func in vprintk() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-27 14:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] printk: rename nmi.c and exported api Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-27 14:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] printk: introduce per-cpu alt_print seq buffer Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-29 12:26 ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-30 1:05 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-30 11:35 ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-27 14:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] printk: make alt_printk available when config printk set Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-27 14:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] printk: drop vprintk_func function Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-27 14:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] printk: use alternative printk buffers Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-29 13:00 ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-30 1:15 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-30 11:15 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-01 2:48 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-04 12:22 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-05 1:36 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-05 10:18 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-03 7:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-04 14:52 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-05 1:27 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-05 9:50 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-06 4:22 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-06 11:32 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-10 4:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-10 11:17 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-11 7:35 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-11 9:30 ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-27 14:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] printk: new printk() recursion detection Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-29 13:19 ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-30 2:00 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-29 13:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] printk: use alt_printk to handle printk() recursive calls Petr Mladek
2016-09-30 2:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-09-30 11:27 ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-01 3:02 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-04 11:35 ` Petr Mladek
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