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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Tony Luck <tony.luck@gmail.com>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] trivial for 4.9
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 09:16:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161008131603.GA7021@home.goodmis.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+8MBbJFD69qGiJQ1odu2ZczDoxbvViS+i6EbsLFX-zApBO4yQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 04:09:51PM -0700, Tony Luck wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Tony Luck <tony.luck@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What if there isn't a "next printk" call for hours, or days?
> >
> > That poor little message without a "\n" will sit in the kernel buffers,
> > and the user who might want to see the message can't, until some
> > unrelated thing happens to print something.
> 
> Retracted ... I'm sure that at some point in the past it happened like
> that ... but
> I just retested on 4.8 and the first message (with no "\n") showed up on the
> serial port just fine without some other message to push it out. When the
> next message came along, a "\n" was auto-inserted.
> 

No there was a small window in time that it did just that. And it caused me a
day of debugging. My ftrace self tests at boot up do something like:

printk("testing X....");

if (test(X))
	printk(" PASSED\n");
else
	printk(" FAILED\n");


And with this new change, the "testing X..." never appeared, but it caused the
system to crash, It confused me because it crashed right after a:

testing Y.... PASSED

came out.

Thus I was debugging why Y failed caused the system crash even though it
reported a passing statement. The sad part was that my bug came in after this
updated to printk. So in bisecting I didn't notice. But what I did notice in
bisecting, was test X, and I tried that, and sure enough it crashed. Then
that's where I started looking at changes in printk.

I made a minor stink about it, and we converted the behavior back to where
kernel writes to printk would always go to the console.

-- Steve

      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-08 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-07  8:51 [GIT PULL] trivial for 4.9 Jiri Kosina
2016-10-07 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07 20:04   ` Joe Perches
2016-10-07 20:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07 20:18       ` Joe Perches
2016-10-07 20:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07 20:33           ` Joe Perches
2016-10-07 21:06             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07 21:37               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-08  7:36                 ` Joe Perches
2016-10-10  5:48                 ` Joe Perches
2016-10-07 21:44               ` Joe Perches
2016-10-07 23:01                 ` Tony Luck
2016-10-07 23:09                   ` Tony Luck
2016-10-07 23:36                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-08 13:16                     ` Steven Rostedt [this message]

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