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From: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Babu Moger <babu.moger@oracle.com>,
	mingo@kernel.org, ak@linux.intel.com, jkosina@suse.cz,
	baiyaowei@cmss.chinamobile.com, atomlin@redhat.com,
	uobergfe@redhat.com, tj@kernel.org,
	hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com, johunt@akamai.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] watchdog: Introduce arch_watchdog_nmi_enable and arch_watchdog_nmi_disable
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 12:14:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161020161414.GE35881@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161019170012.6006d06d9326e62a8059fd08@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 05:00:12PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:38:01 -0700 Babu Moger <babu.moger@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> > Currently we do not have a way to enable/disable arch specific
> > watchdog handlers if it was implemented by any of the architectures.
> > 
> > This patch introduces new functions arch_watchdog_nmi_enable and
> > arch_watchdog_nmi_disable which can be used to enable/disable architecture
> > specific NMI watchdog handlers. These functions are defined as weak as
> > architectures can override their definitions to enable/disable nmi
> > watchdog behaviour.
> > 
> > --- a/kernel/watchdog.c
> > +++ b/kernel/watchdog.c
> > @@ -676,8 +660,13 @@ static void watchdog_nmi_disable(unsigned int cpu)
> >  }
> >  
> >  #else
> > -static int watchdog_nmi_enable(unsigned int cpu) { return 0; }
> > -static void watchdog_nmi_disable(unsigned int cpu) { return; }
> > +/*
> > + * These two functions are mostly architecture specific
> > + * defining them as weak here.
> > + */
> > +int __weak arch_watchdog_nmi_enable(unsigned int cpu) { return 0; }
> > +void __weak arch_watchdog_nmi_disable(unsigned int cpu) { return; }
> > +
> >  #endif /* CONFIG_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR */
> 
> This is a strange way of using __weak.
> 
> Take a look at (one of many examples) kernel/module.c:module_alloc(). 
> We simply provide a default implementation and some other compilation
> unit can override (actually replace) that at link time.  No strange
> ifdeffing needed.

Yeah, this is mostly because of how we enable the hardlockup detector.

Some arches use the perf hw and enable CONFIG_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR.  Other
arches just use their own variant of nmi and set CONFIG_HAVE_NMI_WATCHDOG and
the rest of the arches do not use this.

So the thought was if CONFIG_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR use that implementation,
everyone else use the __weak version.  Then the arches like sparc can override
the weak version with their own nmi enablement.

I don't know how to represent those 3 states correctly and the above is what
we end up with.

> 
> And I'm not really understanding the interaction with
> CONFIG_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR here.  I haven't really worked out why the
> code is all this way but it seems....  odd?

If the above explaination doesn't help, then can you point to some examples
where things seem odd?

Cheers,
Don

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-20 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-13 20:38 [PATCH v2 0/2] Introduce arch specific nmi enable, disable handlers Babu Moger
2016-10-13 20:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] watchdog: Introduce arch_watchdog_nmi_enable and arch_watchdog_nmi_disable Babu Moger
2016-10-17 17:31   ` Don Zickus
2016-10-18  2:46     ` Babu Moger
2016-10-20  0:00   ` Andrew Morton
2016-10-20 16:14     ` Don Zickus [this message]
2016-10-21  3:25       ` Andrew Morton
2016-10-21 15:11         ` Don Zickus
2016-10-21 19:19           ` Andrew Morton
2016-10-21 21:50             ` Babu Moger
2016-10-24 15:19               ` Don Zickus
2016-10-25  0:55                 ` Babu Moger
2016-10-13 20:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] sparc: Implement " Babu Moger
2016-10-17 14:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Introduce arch specific nmi enable, disable handlers Don Zickus

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