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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Taeung Song <treeze.taeung@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Scrolling down broken with "perf top --hierarchy"
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:11:22 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161024051122.GB7720@sejong> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161007143545.GI4809@kernel.org>

Hi Arnaldo,

Sorry for late reply.

On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 11:35:45AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 01:53:57PM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> > Cc-ing perf maintainers,
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 06:32:29AM +0200, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote:
> > > On 2016.10.07 at 13:22 +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 05:51:18AM +0200, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote:
> > > > > On 2016.10.07 at 10:17 +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 06:33:33PM +0200, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote:
> > > > > > > Scrolling down is broken when using "perf top --hierarchy".
> > > > > > > When it starts up everything is OK and one can scroll up and down to all
> > > > > > > entries. But as further and further new entries get added to the list,
> > > > > > > scrolling down is blocked (at the position of the last entry that was
> > > > > > > shown directly after startup).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I think below patch will fix the problem.  Please check.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes. It works fine now. Many thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > Good.  Can I add your Tested-by then?
> > > 
> > > Sure.
> > 
> > Ok, I'll send a formal patch with it.
> > 
> > > 
> > > (And in the long run you should think of making "perf top --hierarchy"
> > > the default for perf top, because it gives a much better (uncluttered)
> > > overview of what is going on.)
> > 
> > I think it's a matter of taste.  Some people prefer to see the top
> > single function or something (i.e. current behavior) while others
> > prefer to see a higher-level view.
> > 
> > But we can think again about the default at least for perf-top.  I
> > worried about changing default behavior because last time we did it
> > for children mode many people complained about it.  But I do think the
> > hierarchy mode is useful for many people though.
> 
> So, I think in such cases we could experiment with asking the user about
> switching to the new mode by showing a popup message telling what it is
> about, if the user says "yes, I want to try it" switch to it and if
> another hotkey is pressed later, write what was chosen (yes, switch to
> this new mode, no, I don't like it, don't pester me about it anymore) to
> its ~/.perfconfig file so that next time it goes straight to this new
> mode, else don't ask the user again and keep using whatever mode was
> there already.
> 
> What do you think?

I think it's a flexible way to set the default behavior while it seems
like a little bit complicated for implementation.  Also I think it's
better to popup another dialog at the end and asks for comfirmation
(but it might not be appropriate for --stdio).

And to do that, we need to have a (programmable) way of dealing with
the configs.

Taeung, is there an update on your config patchset (especially for
write support)?

Thanks,
Namhyung

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-24  5:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-06 16:33 Scrolling down broken with "perf top --hierarchy" Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-07  1:17 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-10-07  3:51   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-07  4:22     ` Namhyung Kim
2016-10-07  4:32       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-07  4:53         ` Namhyung Kim
2016-10-07 14:35           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-10-24  5:11             ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2016-10-24 10:10               ` Taeung Song
2016-10-24 16:37                 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-10-27  0:45                   ` Taeung Song
2016-10-07  4:56         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-07  5:09           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-08 11:21             ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-10 17:54               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-24  4:55                 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-10-24  5:53                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-24  6:02                     ` Namhyung Kim
2016-10-24  6:04                       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2016-10-24  6:14                         ` Namhyung Kim

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