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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] zram: support page-based parallel write
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:23:25 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161024072325.GC1855@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161024055818.GA5703@blaptop>

On (10/24/16 14:58), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> > struct blk_plug_cb *blk_check_plugged(blk_plug_cb_fn unplug, void *data,
> > 				      int size)
> > {
> > 	struct blk_plug *plug = current->plug;
> > 	struct blk_plug_cb *cb;
> > 
> > 	if (!plug)
> > 		return NULL;
> > 
> > 	list_for_each_entry(cb, &plug->cb_list, list)
> > 		if (cb->callback == unplug && cb->data == data)
> > 			return cb;
> 
> Normally, this routine will check and bail out if it has been plugged
> rightly so it would be not too many allocation in there.
> 
> Having said that, there is no need to allocate cb in block layer.
> drive can allocate one time and reuse it with passing it to the
> blk_check_plugged. I was tempted to introduce the API into block layer
> but it was just optimization/easy stuff once this patchset settle down
> so I didn't consider in this patchset.

aha. thanks.

> > > We have been used sysfs for tune the zram for a long time.
> > > Please suggest ideas if you have better. :)
> > 
> > yeah, but this one feels like a super-hacky knob. basically
> > 
> > "enable when you can't tweak your usage patterns. this will tweak the driver".
> > 
> > so I'd probably prefer to keep it hidden for now (may be eventually
> > we will come to some "out-of-zram" solution. but the opposition may
> > be "fix your usage pattern").
> 
> Frankly speaking, I tend to agree.
> 
> As I mentioned in cover-letter or somethine, I don't want to make this knob.
> A option is we admit it's trade-off. So, if someone enables this config,
> he will lost random/direct IO performance at this moment while he can get much
> benefit buffered sequential read/write.
> What do you think?

yes, sounds like it. a config option, probably with a big-big warning
sign and no sysfs knob.

> > so this knob is not even guaranteed to be there all the time.
> > 
> > I wish I could suggest any sound alternative, but I don't have one
> > at the moment. May be I'll have a chance to speak to block-dev people
> > next week.
> 
> Okay. But I think it's not a good idea to hurt wb context you mentioned.
> IOW, IO queuing could be parallelized by multiple wb context but
> servicing(i.e., compression) should be done in zram contexts, not
> wb context.

yep. too many things can go wrong. we can schedule requests on a
different die/package/socket, probably pressuring data caches and
then there are NUMA systems, and so on and on and on. so I can
easily imagine a "fix your user space" response.

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-24  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-22  6:42 [PATCH 1/3] zram: rename IO processing functions Minchan Kim
2016-09-22  6:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] zram: support page-based parallel write Minchan Kim
2016-09-29  3:18   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-30  5:52     ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-04  4:43       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-04  7:35         ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-05  2:01         ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-06  8:29           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-07  6:33             ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-07 18:08               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-17  5:04               ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-21  6:08                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-24  4:51                   ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-21  6:03   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-24  4:47     ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-24  5:20       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-24  5:58         ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-24  7:23           ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-09-22  6:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] zram: adjust the number of zram thread Minchan Kim
2016-10-21  6:23   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-24  4:54     ` Minchan Kim
2016-10-24  5:29       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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