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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: printk considered harmful (was: [TECH TOPIC] asynchronous printk)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 02:31:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161103173153.GA423@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1478106396.23018.51.camel@perches.com>

[Cc linux-kernel]


Hello,

On (11/02/16 10:06), Joe Perches wrote:
> Hello all.
> 
> Can you please post notes for whatever is proposed here somewhere?

we covered 4 topics:

#1 deadlocks and recursion in printk
discussion outcome:
  I published an updated printk_safe patch last week (addresses recursion
  problems in printk). there was no strong opposition, and we agreed
  that per-cpu buffers can help us out.

discussion outcome:
  we agreed that deadlocks in printk must be addressed via printk
  indirection. basically printk() will behave the same way as
  printk_deferred() and, thus, we can, at some point, remove
  printk_deferred().


#2 async printk
discussion outcome:
  we agreed to offload printing duty to a special printk kthread.


#3 pr_cont
discussion outcome:
  out of "problems" list. no work will be done in this area.


#4 console semaphore
discussion outcome:
  we agreed that we can do better here and that it makes sense to do
  what's been proposed in my slides. but, I keep it as a low priority.
  frankly. I'd be happy to see #1-#3 in the mainline in 9-12 months.
  not because it's such an enormesoly hard thing to do, but because we
  probably would want to introduce those changes iteratively, in
  different releases.



p.s.
I uploaded "some sort" of slides to
http://www.slideshare.net/SergeySENOZHATSKY/printk-considered-harmful

	-ss

       reply	other threads:[~2016-11-03 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1478106396.23018.51.camel@perches.com>
2016-11-03 17:31 ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-11-03 18:01   ` printk considered harmful (was: [TECH TOPIC] asynchronous printk) Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-11-03 23:28     ` Jan Kara
2016-11-04 16:07       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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