* [PATCH] perf tools pt: Remove obsolete paragraph in intel-pt.c
@ 2016-11-09 0:11 Andi Kleen
2016-11-09 13:14 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andi Kleen @ 2016-11-09 0:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: acme; +Cc: linux-kernel, Andi Kleen, adrian.hunter
From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Since the unprivileged sched switch event was added in perf,
PT doesn't need need perf_event_paranoid=-1 anymore for
per cpu decoding. So remove the obsolete paragraph in
the documentation.
Cc: adrian.hunter@intel.com
Signed-off-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
---
tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt | 10 ----------
1 file changed, 10 deletions(-)
diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
index c6c8318e38a2..c7f817fd3611 100644
--- a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
+++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
@@ -550,16 +550,6 @@ Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
have as outlined above.
-Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users are
-not permitted to use tracepoints which means there is insufficient side-band
-information to decode Intel PT in per-cpu mode, and potentially workload-only
-mode too if the workload creates new processes.
-
-Note also, that to use tracepoints, read-access to debugfs is required. So if
-debugfs is not mounted or the user does not have read-access, it will again not
-be possible to decode Intel PT in per-cpu mode.
-
-
sched_switch tracepoint
-----------------------
--
2.5.5
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* Re: [PATCH] perf tools pt: Remove obsolete paragraph in intel-pt.c
2016-11-09 0:11 [PATCH] perf tools pt: Remove obsolete paragraph in intel-pt.c Andi Kleen
@ 2016-11-09 13:14 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-11-09 13:59 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo @ 2016-11-09 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andi Kleen; +Cc: linux-kernel, Andi Kleen, adrian.hunter
Em Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 04:11:00PM -0800, Andi Kleen escreveu:
> From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
>
> Since the unprivileged sched switch event was added in perf,
> PT doesn't need need perf_event_paranoid=-1 anymore for
> per cpu decoding. So remove the obsolete paragraph in
> the documentation.
Thanks for pointing that out, I'll do something slightly different tho,
pointing out that from kernel X.Y.Z, when the unprivileged
PERF_RECORD_SWITCH metadata event was introduced, this is no longer an
issue, having to be considered only on older kernels.
- Arnaldo
> Cc: adrian.hunter@intel.com
> Signed-off-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> ---
> tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt | 10 ----------
> 1 file changed, 10 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> index c6c8318e38a2..c7f817fd3611 100644
> --- a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> +++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> @@ -550,16 +550,6 @@ Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
> have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
> have as outlined above.
>
> -Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users are
> -not permitted to use tracepoints which means there is insufficient side-band
> -information to decode Intel PT in per-cpu mode, and potentially workload-only
> -mode too if the workload creates new processes.
> -
> -Note also, that to use tracepoints, read-access to debugfs is required. So if
> -debugfs is not mounted or the user does not have read-access, it will again not
> -be possible to decode Intel PT in per-cpu mode.
> -
> -
> sched_switch tracepoint
> -----------------------
>
> --
> 2.5.5
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* Re: [PATCH] perf tools pt: Remove obsolete paragraph in intel-pt.c
2016-11-09 13:14 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
@ 2016-11-09 13:59 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-11-09 14:01 ` Adrian Hunter
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo @ 2016-11-09 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Cc: Andi Kleen, linux-kernel, Andi Kleen, adrian.hunter
Em Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 10:14:26AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> Em Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 04:11:00PM -0800, Andi Kleen escreveu:
> > From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> >
> > Since the unprivileged sched switch event was added in perf,
> > PT doesn't need need perf_event_paranoid=-1 anymore for
> > per cpu decoding. So remove the obsolete paragraph in
> > the documentation.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out, I'll do something slightly different tho,
> pointing out that from kernel X.Y.Z, when the unprivileged
> PERF_RECORD_SWITCH metadata event was introduced, this is no longer an
> issue, having to be considered only on older kernels.
It ended up as:
diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
index c6c8318e38a2..4d12db118476 100644
--- a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
+++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
@@ -546,6 +546,18 @@ mode by using the --per-thread option.
Privileged vs non-privileged users
----------------------------------
+The v4.2 kernel introduced support for a context switch metadata event,
+PERF_RECORD_SWITCH, which allows unprivileged users to see when their processes
+are scheduled out and in, just not by whom, which is left for the
+PERF_RECORD_SWITCH_CPU_WIDE, that is only accessible in system wide context,
+which in turn requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
+
+Please see the 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context
+switches") commit, that introduces these metadata events for further info.
+
+When working with kernels < v4.2, the following considerations must be taken,
+as the sched:sched_switch tracepoints will be used to receive such information:
+
Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
have as outlined above.
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* Re: [PATCH] perf tools pt: Remove obsolete paragraph in intel-pt.c
2016-11-09 13:59 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
@ 2016-11-09 14:01 ` Adrian Hunter
2016-11-09 14:39 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-11-09 14:44 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Adrian Hunter @ 2016-11-09 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Cc: Andi Kleen, linux-kernel, Andi Kleen
On 09/11/16 15:59, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 10:14:26AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
>> Em Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 04:11:00PM -0800, Andi Kleen escreveu:
>>> From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
>>>
>>> Since the unprivileged sched switch event was added in perf,
>>> PT doesn't need need perf_event_paranoid=-1 anymore for
>>> per cpu decoding. So remove the obsolete paragraph in
>>> the documentation.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing that out, I'll do something slightly different tho,
>> pointing out that from kernel X.Y.Z, when the unprivileged
>> PERF_RECORD_SWITCH metadata event was introduced, this is no longer an
>> issue, having to be considered only on older kernels.
>
> It ended up as:
>
> diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> index c6c8318e38a2..4d12db118476 100644
> --- a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> +++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> @@ -546,6 +546,18 @@ mode by using the --per-thread option.
> Privileged vs non-privileged users
> ----------------------------------
>
> +The v4.2 kernel introduced support for a context switch metadata event,
> +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH, which allows unprivileged users to see when their processes
> +are scheduled out and in, just not by whom, which is left for the
> +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH_CPU_WIDE, that is only accessible in system wide context,
> +which in turn requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
> +
> +Please see the 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context
> +switches") commit, that introduces these metadata events for further info.
> +
> +When working with kernels < v4.2, the following considerations must be taken,
> +as the sched:sched_switch tracepoints will be used to receive such information:
> +
> Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
> have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
> have as outlined above.
Maybe put that last paragraph about memory limits above the new text.
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* Re: [PATCH] perf tools pt: Remove obsolete paragraph in intel-pt.c
2016-11-09 14:01 ` Adrian Hunter
@ 2016-11-09 14:39 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-11-09 14:44 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo @ 2016-11-09 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Adrian Hunter
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Andi Kleen, linux-kernel, Andi Kleen
Em Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 04:01:12PM +0200, Adrian Hunter escreveu:
> On 09/11/16 15:59, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 10:14:26AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> >> Em Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 04:11:00PM -0800, Andi Kleen escreveu:
> >>> From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> >>>
> >>> Since the unprivileged sched switch event was added in perf,
> >>> PT doesn't need need perf_event_paranoid=-1 anymore for
> >>> per cpu decoding. So remove the obsolete paragraph in
> >>> the documentation.
> >>
> >> Thanks for pointing that out, I'll do something slightly different tho,
> >> pointing out that from kernel X.Y.Z, when the unprivileged
> >> PERF_RECORD_SWITCH metadata event was introduced, this is no longer an
> >> issue, having to be considered only on older kernels.
> >
> > It ended up as:
> >
> > diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> > index c6c8318e38a2..4d12db118476 100644
> > --- a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> > +++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> > @@ -546,6 +546,18 @@ mode by using the --per-thread option.
> > Privileged vs non-privileged users
> > ----------------------------------
> >
> > +The v4.2 kernel introduced support for a context switch metadata event,
> > +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH, which allows unprivileged users to see when their processes
> > +are scheduled out and in, just not by whom, which is left for the
> > +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH_CPU_WIDE, that is only accessible in system wide context,
> > +which in turn requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
> > +
> > +Please see the 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context
> > +switches") commit, that introduces these metadata events for further info.
> > +
> > +When working with kernels < v4.2, the following considerations must be taken,
> > +as the sched:sched_switch tracepoints will be used to receive such information:
> > +
> > Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
> > have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
> > have as outlined above.
>
> Maybe put that last paragraph about memory limits above the new text.
Ok, as it is not affected by the new text, thanks.
- Arnaldo
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* Re: [PATCH] perf tools pt: Remove obsolete paragraph in intel-pt.c
2016-11-09 14:01 ` Adrian Hunter
2016-11-09 14:39 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
@ 2016-11-09 14:44 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-11-10 8:11 ` Adrian Hunter
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo @ 2016-11-09 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Adrian Hunter
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Andi Kleen, linux-kernel, Andi Kleen
Em Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 04:01:12PM +0200, Adrian Hunter escreveu:
> On 09/11/16 15:59, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 10:14:26AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
> > +++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> > @@ -546,6 +546,18 @@ mode by using the --per-thread option.
> > Privileged vs non-privileged users
> > ----------------------------------
> > +The v4.2 kernel introduced support for a context switch metadata event,
> > +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH, which allows unprivileged users to see when their processes
> > +are scheduled out and in, just not by whom, which is left for the
> > +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH_CPU_WIDE, that is only accessible in system wide context,
> > +which in turn requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
> > +
> > +Please see the 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context
> > +switches") commit, that introduces these metadata events for further info.
> > +
> > +When working with kernels < v4.2, the following considerations must be taken,
> > +as the sched:sched_switch tracepoints will be used to receive such information:
> > +
> > Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
> > have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
> > have as outlined above.
> Maybe put that last paragraph about memory limits above the new text.
Ok, adding your Acked-by, it now stands as, please ack:
commit c955ced680270b95a3de6a2434311befaeaea948
Author: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Date: Wed Nov 9 11:04:05 2016 -0300
perf intel-pt: Update documentation about context switch events
Since the unprivileged sched switch event was added in perf, PT doesn't
need need perf_event_paranoid=-1 anymore for per cpu decoding.
Add a note stating that that is only needed for kernels < 4.2.
Reported-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Report-link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/http://lkml.kernel.org/n/tip-x2ybghpqxxn3zu0m8o7qi42r@git.kernel.org
Acked-by: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
Fixes: 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context switches")
Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/n/tip-x2ybghpqxxn3zu0m8o7qi42r@git.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
index c6c8318e38a2..b0b3007d3c9c 100644
--- a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
+++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
@@ -550,6 +550,18 @@ Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
have as outlined above.
+The v4.2 kernel introduced support for a context switch metadata event,
+PERF_RECORD_SWITCH, which allows unprivileged users to see when their processes
+are scheduled out and in, just not by whom, which is left for the
+PERF_RECORD_SWITCH_CPU_WIDE, that is only accessible in system wide context,
+which in turn requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
+
+Please see the 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context
+switches") commit, that introduces these metadata events for further info.
+
+When working with kernels < v4.2, the following considerations must be taken,
+as the sched:sched_switch tracepoints will be used to receive such information:
+
Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users are
not permitted to use tracepoints which means there is insufficient side-band
information to decode Intel PT in per-cpu mode, and potentially workload-only
@@ -564,8 +576,11 @@ sched_switch tracepoint
-----------------------
The sched_switch tracepoint is used to provide side-band data for Intel PT
-decoding. sched_switch events are automatically added. e.g. the second event
-shown below
+decoding in kernels where the PERF_RECORD_SWITCH metadata event isn't
+available.
+
+The sched_switch events are automatically added. e.g. the second event shown
+below:
$ perf record -vv -e intel_pt//u uname
------------------------------------------------------------
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* Re: [PATCH] perf tools pt: Remove obsolete paragraph in intel-pt.c
2016-11-09 14:44 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
@ 2016-11-10 8:11 ` Adrian Hunter
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Adrian Hunter @ 2016-11-10 8:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Andi Kleen, linux-kernel, Andi Kleen
On 09/11/16 16:44, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 04:01:12PM +0200, Adrian Hunter escreveu:
>> On 09/11/16 15:59, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>>> Em Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 10:14:26AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo escreveu:
>>> +++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
>>> @@ -546,6 +546,18 @@ mode by using the --per-thread option.
>>> Privileged vs non-privileged users
>>> ----------------------------------
>
>>> +The v4.2 kernel introduced support for a context switch metadata event,
>>> +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH, which allows unprivileged users to see when their processes
>>> +are scheduled out and in, just not by whom, which is left for the
>>> +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH_CPU_WIDE, that is only accessible in system wide context,
>>> +which in turn requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
>>> +
>>> +Please see the 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context
>>> +switches") commit, that introduces these metadata events for further info.
>>> +
>>> +When working with kernels < v4.2, the following considerations must be taken,
>>> +as the sched:sched_switch tracepoints will be used to receive such information:
>>> +
>>> Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
>>> have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
>>> have as outlined above.
>
>> Maybe put that last paragraph about memory limits above the new text.
>
> Ok, adding your Acked-by, it now stands as, please ack:
Yes that is good. Thank you!
>
> commit c955ced680270b95a3de6a2434311befaeaea948
> Author: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
> Date: Wed Nov 9 11:04:05 2016 -0300
>
> perf intel-pt: Update documentation about context switch events
>
> Since the unprivileged sched switch event was added in perf, PT doesn't
> need need perf_event_paranoid=-1 anymore for per cpu decoding.
>
> Add a note stating that that is only needed for kernels < 4.2.
>
> Reported-by: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> Report-link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/http://lkml.kernel.org/n/tip-x2ybghpqxxn3zu0m8o7qi42r@git.kernel.org
> Acked-by: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
> Fixes: 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context switches")
> Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/n/tip-x2ybghpqxxn3zu0m8o7qi42r@git.kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
>
> diff --git a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> index c6c8318e38a2..b0b3007d3c9c 100644
> --- a/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> +++ b/tools/perf/Documentation/intel-pt.txt
> @@ -550,6 +550,18 @@ Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users
> have memory limits imposed upon them. That affects what buffer sizes they can
> have as outlined above.
>
> +The v4.2 kernel introduced support for a context switch metadata event,
> +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH, which allows unprivileged users to see when their processes
> +are scheduled out and in, just not by whom, which is left for the
> +PERF_RECORD_SWITCH_CPU_WIDE, that is only accessible in system wide context,
> +which in turn requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
> +
> +Please see the 45ac1403f564 ("perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context
> +switches") commit, that introduces these metadata events for further info.
> +
> +When working with kernels < v4.2, the following considerations must be taken,
> +as the sched:sched_switch tracepoints will be used to receive such information:
> +
> Unless /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid is set to -1, unprivileged users are
> not permitted to use tracepoints which means there is insufficient side-band
> information to decode Intel PT in per-cpu mode, and potentially workload-only
> @@ -564,8 +576,11 @@ sched_switch tracepoint
> -----------------------
>
> The sched_switch tracepoint is used to provide side-band data for Intel PT
> -decoding. sched_switch events are automatically added. e.g. the second event
> -shown below
> +decoding in kernels where the PERF_RECORD_SWITCH metadata event isn't
> +available.
> +
> +The sched_switch events are automatically added. e.g. the second event shown
> +below:
>
> $ perf record -vv -e intel_pt//u uname
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
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