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From: Bin Gao <bin.gao@linux.intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bin Gao <bin.gao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86: use KNOWN_FREQ and RELIABLE TSC flags on certain processors/SoCs
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 16:06:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161111000634.GC217763@worksta> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1611110012480.3501@nanos>

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:26:40AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Bin Gao wrote:
> > > > @@ -702,6 +702,15 @@ unsigned long native_calibrate_tsc(void)
> > > >  		}
> > > >  	}
> > > >  
> > > > +	setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_TSC_KNOWN_FREQ);
> > > 
> > > I can understand the one below, but this one changes existing behaviour w/o explaining why this is correct and desired. If at all then this wants to be a seperate patch and not just mingled in your goldmont update.
> > 
> > native_calibrate_tsc() implements determining TSC frequency via CPUID.
> > The purpose to add X86_FEATURE_TSC_KNOWN_FREQ flag is exactly for this case:
> > TSC frequency determined via CPUID or MSR are always correct and the whole
> > calibration should be skipped.
> 
> Did you actually verify that this is correct and does not introduce NTP
> issues compared to the long term calibration on such platforms?
> 
> We've been burnt before and myself and others wasted enough time already
> debugging that crap.

Yes, we had a 24 hours test before on one of the CPUID capable platforms.
With PIT calibrated frequency, we got more than 3 seconds drift whereas
with CPUID determined frequency we only got less than 0.5 second drift.

Another fact is that on MSR capable platforms, PIT/HPET is generally not
available so calibration won't work at all.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-11  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-01 17:14 [PATCH 0/2] x86/tsc: split X86_FEATURE_TSC_RELIABLE into two Bin Gao
2016-11-01 17:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/tsc: add X86_FEATURE_TSC_KNOWN_FREQ flag Bin Gao
2016-11-09 21:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]     ` <4460FA1017EA3844B646E90DA4E984057E2ECB7C@ORSMSX112.amr.corp.intel.com>
2016-11-10 22:51       ` Bin Gao
2016-11-01 17:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: use KNOWN_FREQ and RELIABLE TSC flags on certain processors/SoCs Bin Gao
2016-11-09 21:25   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]     ` <4460FA1017EA3844B646E90DA4E984057E2ECB85@ORSMSX112.amr.corp.intel.com>
2016-11-10 23:20       ` Bin Gao
2016-11-10 23:26         ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-11  0:06           ` Bin Gao [this message]
2016-11-11  0:01             ` Thomas Gleixner

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