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From: Lance Roy <ldr709@gmail.com>
To: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	"Josh Triplett" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	oleg@redhat.com, "pranith kumar" <bobby.prani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] SRCU rewrite
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 11:53:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161117115304.0ff3f84e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJhGHyA=y1NSoHhZaQumfM_odN4Lcs4tJ3FyQfdLY9p7cZu2nQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 21:58:34 +0800
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com> wrote:
> from the changelog, it sounds like that "ULONG_MAX - NR_CPUS" is the limit
> of the implements(old or this one). but actually the real max number of
> active readers is much smaller, I think ULONG_MAX/4 can be used here instead
> and that part of the changelog can be removed.
In the old version, there are two separate limits. There first is that there
are no more than ULONG_MAX nested or parallel readers, as otherwise ->c[] would
overflow.

The other limit is to prevent ->seq[] from overflowing during
srcu_readers_active_idx_check(). For this to happen, there must be ULONG_MAX+1
readers that loaded ->completed before srcu_flip() was run which then increment
->seq[]. The ->seq[] array is supposed to prevent
srcu_readers_active_idx_check() from completing successfully if any such
readers increment ->seq[], because otherwise they could decrement ->c[] while
it is being read, which could cause it to incorrectly report that there are no
active readers. If ->seq[] overflows then there is nothing (except how
improbable it is) to prevent this from happening.

I used to think (because of the previous comment) that there could be at most
one such increment of ->seq[] per CPU, as they would have to be using to old
value of ->completed and preemption would be disabled. This is not the case
because there are no barriers around srcu_flip(), so the processor is not
required to increment ->completed before reading ->seq[] the first time, nor is
it required to wait until it is done reading ->seq[] the second time before
incrementing. This means that the following code could cause ->seq[] to
increment an arbitrarily large number of times between the two ->seq[] loads in
srcu_readers_active_idx_check().
	while (true) {
		int idx = srcu_read_lock(sp);
		srcu_read_unlock(sp, idx);
	}

Thanks,
Lance

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-17 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-14 18:36 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] SRCU rewrite Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-14 19:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-15  1:44 ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-15 14:37   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 12:18     ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-11-17 13:49       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 14:38         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 14:45           ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-17 15:54             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 15:55             ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-11-17 17:42               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 14:31       ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-17 15:03         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 15:07         ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-11-17 15:31           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-17 15:38             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-17 15:53               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 16:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-17 20:31           ` Lance Roy
2016-11-15  7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 13:54   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-15 13:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 14:26       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-15 14:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 15:43           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 13:58 ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-11-17 19:53   ` Lance Roy [this message]
2016-11-18 13:27     ` Paul E. McKenney

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