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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 05:40:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161117134015.GT3612@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <604945667.4957.1479383194368.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:46:34AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:51 AM, Lai Jiangshan jiangshanlai@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> > <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> >> Userspace applications should be allowed to expect the membarrier system
> >> call with MEMBARRIER_CMD_SHARED command to issue memory barriers on
> >> nohz_full CPUs, but synchronize_sched() does not take those into
> >> account.
> >>
> >> Given that we do not want unrelated processes to be able to affect
> >> real-time sensitive nohz_full CPUs, simply return ENOSYS when membarrier
> >> is invoked on a kernel with enabled nohz_full CPUs.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
> >> CC: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> >> CC: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
> >> CC: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> >> CC: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
> >> CC: <stable@vger.kernel.org>    [3.10+]
> >> ---
> >>  kernel/membarrier.c | 4 ++++
> >>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/kernel/membarrier.c b/kernel/membarrier.c
> >> index 536c727..9f9284f 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/membarrier.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/membarrier.c
> >> @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
> >>
> >>  #include <linux/syscalls.h>
> >>  #include <linux/membarrier.h>
> >> +#include <linux/tick.h>
> >>
> >>  /*
> >>   * Bitmask made from a "or" of all commands within enum membarrier_cmd,
> >> @@ -51,6 +52,9 @@
> >>   */
> >>  SYSCALL_DEFINE2(membarrier, int, cmd, int, flags)
> >>  {
> >> +       /* MEMBARRIER_CMD_SHARED is not compatible with nohz_full. */
> >> +       if (tick_nohz_full_enabled())
> >> +               return -ENOSYS;
> > 
> > I guess this code needs to be moved down into the branch of
> > "case MEMBARRIER_CMD_SHARED" to match its comment.
> 
> No, that would be unexpected from user-space. Either a system
> call is implemented or not, not "implemented for some parameters".
> 
> We also want MEMBARRIER_CMD_QUERY to return -ENOSYS in this case,
> and all other parameter values to also return -ENOSYS (rather than
> -EINVAL).
> 
> If a system call that returns successfully on CMD_QUERY or EINVAL,
> user-space may assume it will not have to handle ENOSYS in the
> next calls.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Acked-by: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
> > 
> > But I'm afraid, in the future, tick_nohz_full will become a default y
> > feature. thus it makes sys_membarrier() always disabled. we might
> > need a new MEMBARRIER_CMD_XXX to handle it?
> 
> This may require that we send an IPI to nohz_full CPUs, which will
> disturb them real-time wise. Any better ideas ?

Restrict the IPIs to CPUs running the process executing the
sys_membarrier() system call.  This would mean that CPUs only
are interrupted by their own application's request.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-17 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-03 16:29 [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-03 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-07 17:08   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-07 18:06     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-07 18:10       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-07 20:03         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-08 11:15           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-12 17:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17  6:51 ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-11-17 11:46   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-17 13:40     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-11-17 13:54       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-17 14:09         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 14:50         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-17 15:02           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-17 15:17             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-17 16:02               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 13:38   ` Paul E. McKenney

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