From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, keescook@chromium.org,
elena.reshetova@intel.com, arnd@arndb.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, dave@progbits.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 7/7] kref: Implement using refcount_t
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:26:34 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161118082634.GD5227@tardis.cn.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161117163624.GP22855@arm.com>
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 04:36:24PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 05:11:10PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:08:36PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > All sounds reasonable to me. It's worth pointing out that you can't create
> > > order using a control dependency hanging off the status flag of a
> > > store-conditional, but the code in question here has the dependency from
> > > the loaded value, which is sufficient.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm always surprised by that 'feature'. Is that ARM specific? Or
> > so more LL/SC archs have this?
>
> In general, I'm not sure, but I think PPC does allow for the control
> dependency.
>
You guys mean the "control dependency" from a sc to subsequent WRITE,
like in the following litmus?
PPC sc-control
""
{
0:r11=x;0:r12=y;0:r3=1;0:r10=0;
1:r11=x;1:r12=y;
}
P0 | P1 ;
lwarx r2, r10, r11 | lwz r2, 0(r12) ;
stwcx. r3, r10, r11 | lwsync ;
bne Fail | ;
stw r3, 0(r12) | lwz r1, 0(r11) ;
Fail: | ;
exists
(1:r2 = 1 /\ x = 1 /\ 1:r1 = 0)
PPCMEM and herd both said the exists-clause could be triggered
"Sometimes".
And ISA said:
"""
Because a Store Conditional instruction may complete before its store
has been performed, a conditional Branch instruction that depends on the
CR0 value set by a Store Conditional instruction does not order the
Store Conditional's store with respect to storage accesses caused by
instructions that follow the Branch.
"""
So ppc doesn't honor this "control dependency". ;-)
Regards,
Boqun
> Will
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Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-14 17:39 [RFC][PATCH 0/7] kref improvements Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 17:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] kref: Add KREF_INIT() Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 17:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] kref: Add kref_read() Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 18:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-15 7:28 ` Greg KH
2016-11-15 7:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 8:37 ` [PATCH] printk, locking/atomics, kref: Introduce new %pAr and %pAk format string options for atomic_t and 'struct kref' Ingo Molnar
2016-11-15 8:43 ` [PATCH v2] " Ingo Molnar
2016-11-15 9:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 9:41 ` [PATCH v3] printk, locking/atomics, kref: Introduce new %pAa " Ingo Molnar
2016-11-15 10:10 ` [PATCH v2] printk, locking/atomics, kref: Introduce new %pAr " kbuild test robot
2016-11-15 16:42 ` [PATCH] " Linus Torvalds
2016-11-16 8:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-15 7:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] kref: Add kref_read() Greg KH
2016-11-15 8:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 20:53 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-16 8:21 ` Greg KH
2016-11-16 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-16 10:18 ` Greg KH
2016-11-16 10:11 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-11-16 10:19 ` Greg KH
2016-11-16 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-16 18:58 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-17 8:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 12:30 ` David Windsor
2016-11-17 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 13:01 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-17 13:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 15:42 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-17 18:02 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-17 19:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 19:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 19:34 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-14 17:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] kref: Kill kref_sub() Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 17:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] kref: Use kref_get_unless_zero() more Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 17:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] kref: Implement kref_put_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 20:35 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-15 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 17:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] kref: Avoid more abuse Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-14 17:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] kref: Implement using refcount_t Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 8:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-15 9:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-15 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 13:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-15 18:06 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-15 19:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 19:23 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-16 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-16 8:51 ` Greg KH
2016-11-16 9:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-16 9:24 ` Greg KH
2016-11-16 10:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-16 18:55 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-17 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 19:50 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-16 18:41 ` Kees Cook
2016-11-15 12:33 ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-15 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 14:19 ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-17 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 9:48 ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-17 10:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 10:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 11:03 ` Greg KH
2016-11-17 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <CAL0jBu-GnREUPSX4kUDp-Cc8ZGp6+Cb2q0HVandswcLzPRnChQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-11-17 12:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 12:08 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-17 16:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-17 16:36 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-18 8:26 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2016-11-18 10:16 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-18 10:07 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-18 11:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-18 17:06 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-18 18:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 4:06 ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-21 7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-21 8:38 ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-21 8:44 ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-21 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 9:37 ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-18 10:47 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-18 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-18 16:58 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-18 18:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-19 7:14 ` Reshetova, Elena
2016-11-19 11:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-26 23:14 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-27 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-27 21:07 ` Kees Cook
2017-01-30 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-15 7:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/7] kref improvements Greg KH
2016-11-15 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-15 15:05 ` Greg KH
2016-11-15 7:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
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