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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Jan Stancek <jstancek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] msr-trace.h:42 suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage!
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:12:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161121201235.GX3612@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161121132438.2440d82f@gandalf.local.home>

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 01:24:38PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> 
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:55:01 -0500
> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 18:18:53 +0100
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Its not ftrace as such though, its RCU, ftrace simply uses RCU to avoid
> > > locking, as one does.  
> > 
> > Just to be clear, as ftrace in the kernel mostly represents function
> > tracing, which doesn't use RCU. This is a tracepoint feature.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Biggest objection would be that the rcu_irq_enter_irqson() thing does
> > > POPF and rcu_irq_exit_irqson() does again. So wrapping every tracepoint
> > > with that is quite a few cycles.  
> > 
> > Agree. Even though this ends up being a whack-a-mole(TM) fix, I'm not
> > concerned enough to put a heavy weight rcu idle code in for all
> > tracepoints.
> > 
> > Although, what about a percpu flag that can be checked in the
> > tracepoint code to see if it should enable RCU or not?
> > 
> > Hmm, I wonder if "rcu_is_watching()" is light enough to have in all
> > tracepoints?
> 
> Is it possible to make rcu_is_watching() an inlined call to prevent the
> overhead of doing a function call? This way we could use this in the
> fast path of the tracepoint.

It would mean exposing the rcu_dynticks structure to the rest of the
kernel, but I guess that wouldn't be the end of the world.  Are you
calling rcu_is_watching() or __rcu_is_watching()?  The latter is
appropriate if preemption is already  disabled.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-21 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-21  0:53 [BUG] msr-trace.h:42 suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage! Jiri Olsa
2016-11-21  9:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-21  9:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 11:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-21  9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21  9:34   ` Jiri Olsa
2016-11-21  9:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 11:22       ` Jiri Olsa
2016-11-21 11:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 12:49           ` Jiri Olsa
2016-11-21 12:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 14:15       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-21 14:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 15:35           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-11-21 15:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 16:06               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-11-29 13:16                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-11-29 13:59                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-30  8:48                     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-11-30  8:54                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-30  9:07                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-11-30  9:14                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-29 14:04                   ` Jiri Olsa
2016-11-21 14:20       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-21 17:06   ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-21 17:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-21 17:45       ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-21 18:01         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-21 18:06           ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-21 18:22             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-21 18:37               ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-21 19:06                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-21 19:15                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-21 20:44                   ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-22  8:19                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-22 14:39                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-22 19:05                   ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-24  2:06                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-28 21:48                   ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-28 22:46                     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-28 23:10                       ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-21 17:55       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-21 18:24         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-21 20:12           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-02-23 12:24   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-02-23 17:11     ` Andi Kleen
2017-02-23 17:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-23 17:56       ` Borislav Petkov

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