From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/core] x86: Enable Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:51:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161128085102.GA17652@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1611251951360.3602@nanos>
* Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> >
> > * tip-bot for Tim Chen <tipbot@zytor.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Commit-ID: 5e76b2ab36b40ca33023e78725bdc69eafd63134
> > > Gitweb: http://git.kernel.org/tip/5e76b2ab36b40ca33023e78725bdc69eafd63134
> > > Author: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> > > AuthorDate: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 12:23:55 -0800
> > > Committer: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > > CommitDate: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 20:44:19 +0100
> > >
> > > x86: Enable Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0
> >
> > This patch doesn't build:
> >
> > Note that this patch has to be redone anyway, as it won't even build:
>
> The branch where I merged it to builds fine.
Indeed you are right - asm/mutex.h is gone in locking/core, so this is a semantic
merge conflict, not a build failure.
> Though, yes I missed the asm/mutex.h include which obviously should be
> linux/mutex.h
>
> > > +#include <linux/sched.h>
> > > +#include <linux/cpumask.h>
> > > +#include <linux/cpuset.h>
> > > +#include <asm/mutex.h>
> > > +#include <linux/sched.h>
> > > +#include <linux/sysctl.h>
> > > +#include <linux/nodemask.h>
> >
> > arch/x86/kernel/itmt.c:26:23: fatal error: asm/mutex.h: No such file or directory
> >
> > > +config SCHED_ITMT
> > > + bool "Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology (ITMT) scheduler support"
> > > + depends on SCHED_MC && CPU_SUP_INTEL && X86_INTEL_PSTATE
> > > + ---help---
> > > + ITMT enabled scheduler support improves the CPU scheduler's decision
> > > + to move tasks to cpu core that can be boosted to a higher frequency
> > > + than others. It will have better performance at a cost of slightly
> > > + increased overhead in task migrations. If unsure say N here.
> >
> > Argh, so the 'itmt' name really sucks as well - could we please make it something
> > more obvious - like SCHED_INTEL_TURBO or so - and similarly rename the file as
> > well?
> >
> > The sched_intel_turbo.c file could thus host all things related to scheduler
> > support of turbo frequencies - it shouldn't be named after the Intel acronym of
> > the day...
>
> It would be nice to come up with such nitpicks during review. This thing went
> through 8 iterations, but nothing came up and I didn't mind the itmt naming.
Yeah, so I had to NAK an early iteration and didn't get around to doing a really
detailed review yet - and after (falsely) thinking it had a build failure I got
overly worked up about the bad naming: my bad and apologies!
So the code looks good to me but the naming still sucks a bit - I'm fine with
having the commits re-merged as-is and renaming the Kconfig variable to something
more expressive: I've done this in tip:sched/core and have fixed the asm/mutex.h
thing as well.
Wrt. improving the naming:
Firstly, popular tech news has coined the 'Turbo Boost Max' technology 'TBM' (TBM2
and TBM3) as the natural acronym of the Intel feature - not 'ITMT'. So to anyone
except people well aware of Intel acronyms the term 'ITMT' will be pretty
meaningless.
Does something more generic like SCHED_MC_PRIO (as an extension to SCHED_MC) work
with everyone? Intel Turbo Max 3.0 is the current (only) implementation of it, but
I don't think the technology will stop at that stage as dies are getting larger
but thinner.
I also think the Kconfig text is somewhat misleading and the default-disabled
status is counterproductive:
+config SCHED_ITMT
+ bool "Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology (ITMT) scheduler support"
+ depends on SCHED_MC && CPU_SUP_INTEL && X86_INTEL_PSTATE
+ ---help---
+ ITMT enabled scheduler support improves the CPU scheduler's decision
+ to move tasks to cpu core that can be boosted to a higher frequency
+ than others. It will have better performance at a cost of slightly
+ increased overhead in task migrations. If unsure say N here.
... the extra cost of smarter CPU selection is IMHO overwhelmed by the negative
effects of not knowing about core frequency ordering, on most workloads.
A better default would be default-y I believe (that is what we do for CPU hardware
enablement typically), and a better description would be something like:
+config SCHED_MC_PRIO
+ bool "CPU core priorities scheduler support"
+ depends on SCHED_MC && CPU_SUP_INTEL && X86_INTEL_PSTATE
+ default y
+ ---help---
+ Intel Turbo Boost Max 3.0 enabled CPUs have a core ordering determined at
+ manufacturing time, which allows certain cores to reach higher turbo
+ frequencies (when running single threaded workloads) than others.
+
+ Enabling this kernel feature teaches the scheduler about the TBM3 priority
+ order of the CPU cores and adjusts the scheduler's CPU selection logic
+ accordingly, so that higher overall system performance can be achieved.
+
+ This feature will have no effect on CPUs without this feature.
+
+ If unsure say Y here.
If/when other architectures make use of this the Kconfig entry can be moved into
the scheduler Kconfig - but for the time being it can stay in arch/x86/.
Another variant would be to eliminate the Kconfig option altogether and make it a
natural feature of SCHED_MC (like it is in the core scheduler).
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-28 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-22 20:23 [PATCH v8 0/8] Support Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Tim Chen
2016-11-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v8 1/8] sched: Extend scheduler's asym packing Tim Chen
2016-11-23 13:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-23 17:32 ` Tim Chen
2016-11-24 13:25 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Tim Chen
2016-11-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v8 2/8] x86/topology: Define x86's arch_update_cpu_topology Tim Chen
2016-11-24 19:52 ` [tip:x86/core] " tip-bot for Tim Chen
2016-11-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v8 3/8] x86: Enable Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Tim Chen
2016-11-24 19:52 ` [tip:x86/core] " tip-bot for Tim Chen
2016-11-25 8:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-25 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 19:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-28 8:51 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-11-28 17:35 ` Tim Chen
2016-11-28 23:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-29 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-29 18:45 ` Tim Chen
2016-11-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v8 4/8] x86/sysctl: Add sysctl for ITMT scheduling feature Tim Chen
2016-11-24 19:53 ` [tip:x86/core] " tip-bot for Tim Chen
2016-11-28 8:56 ` [PATCH v8 4/8] " Borislav Petkov
2016-11-29 17:30 ` Tim Chen
2016-11-29 17:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-11-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v8 5/8] x86/sched: Add SD_ASYM_PACKING flags to x86 ITMT CPU Tim Chen
2016-11-24 19:53 ` [tip:x86/core] " tip-bot for Tim Chen
2016-11-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v8 6/8] acpi: bus: Enable HWP CPPC objects Tim Chen
2016-11-24 19:54 ` [tip:x86/core] acpi/bus: " tip-bot for Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-11-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v8 7/8] acpi: bus: Set _OSC for diverse core support Tim Chen
2016-11-24 19:54 ` [tip:x86/core] acpi/bus: " tip-bot for Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-11-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v8 8/8] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Use CPPC to get max performance Tim Chen
2016-11-24 19:55 ` [tip:x86/core] cpufreq/intel_pstate: " tip-bot for Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-07 19:06 ` [PATCH v8 8/8] cpufreq: intel_pstate: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-12-07 23:12 ` Tim Chen
2016-12-07 23:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-09 14:45 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-12-09 15:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-09 23:52 ` [PATCH] ACPI / CPPC: Fix per-CPU pointers management Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-10 18:51 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-12-12 1:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-14 2:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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