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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpeng.li@hotmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] vtime: Delay cputime accounting to tick
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:34:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161206143428.GA2507@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161206042055.GB9068@fergus.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 03:20:55PM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 03:32:13AM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > This follows up Martin Schwidefsky's patch which propose to delay
> > cputime accounting to the tick in order to minimize the calls to
> > account_system_time() and alikes as these functions can carry quite some
> > overhead:
> > 
> > 	http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20161121111728.13a0a3db@mschwide
> > 
> > The set includes Martin's patch, rebased on top of tip:sched/core and
> > latest s390 changes, and extends it to the other implementations of
> > CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_NATIVE (powerpc and ia64) along with a few
> > core changes to adapt the whole.
> > 
> > Only built-tested though as I don't have access to any of these archs.
> 
> The patches look reasonable at a quick look.  I assume that to test
> them, we would want to run a guest in an overcommitted system, so as
> to get some steal time.  Do you have any more specific suggestions as
> to what to run as a test?  Just run some benchmark and see if the
> user/system/irq times look reasonable?  Or do you have something more
> quantitative?

So I guess we want to test both correctness and performance.

To check correctness I use two little programs, one that does a userspace
loop:

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
	while (1);
	return 0;
}


And another that does a kernelspace loop. The latter
is not 100% kernel loop but spends most of its time in
kernel mode.

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
	void *addr = sbrk(0);

	while (1) {
		brk(addr + 4096);
		brk(addr);
	}
	return 0;
}

Testing idle time just consist in checking the difference between two
cat /proc/stat in a given timelapse for an idle CPU.

For irqs it gets harder. There you just need to check if the numbers are
reasonable.

Now in order to measure performance, I think you need a workload that either
does a lot of guest/host switch or does a lot of IRQs. Maybe just something
that involves networking. Then comparing stime, hardirq and softirq should
show some better nummbers. In order to increase the effect, you can set a very
low HZ value (100?).

Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-06 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-06  2:32 [PATCH 00/10] vtime: Delay cputime accounting to tick Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [FIX][PATCH 01/10] powerpc32: Fix stale scaled stime on context switch Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [FIX][PATCH 02/10] ia64: Fix wrong start cputime assignment on task switch Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [PATCH 03/10] cputime: Allow accounting system time using cpustat index Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [PATCH 04/10] cputime: Export account_guest_time Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [PATCH 05/10] powerpc: Prepare accounting structure for cputime flush on tick Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [PATCH 06/10] powerpc: Migrate stolen_time field to accounting structure Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [PATCH 07/10] powerpc/vtime: Accumulate cputime and account only on tick/task switch Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [PATCH 08/10] ia64: " Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [PATCH 09/10] s390/cputime: delayed accounting of system time Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-10  1:48   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-12 10:27     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-12-12 15:02       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-13 11:13         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-12-13 13:21           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-12-14  1:44             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-20 14:13               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-12-20 14:30                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-13 14:38           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  2:32 ` [PATCH 10/10] vtime: Rename vtime_account_user() to vtime_flush() Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-06  4:20 ` [PATCH 00/10] vtime: Delay cputime accounting to tick Paul Mackerras
2016-12-06  7:04   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-12-06 14:34   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2016-12-06  8:40 ` Christian Borntraeger

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