From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: Explain light-handed markup preference a bit better
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 12:39:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161207123924.4a47d777@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161207154258.23333-1-daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 16:42:58 +0100
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> We already had a super-short blurb, but worth extending it I think:
> We're still pretty far away from anything like a consensus, but
> there's clearly a lot of people who prefer an as-light as possible
> approach to converting existing .txt files to .rst. Make sure this is
> properly taken into account and clear.
>
> Motivated by discussions with Peter and Christoph and others.
I do think we should put something in to guide people in the right
direction. And yes, it should, itself, be light-handed and minimal.
[...]
> Documentation/kernel-documentation.rst | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
I do, however, also believe that it should apply to relatively recent
docs-next :)
> diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-documentation.rst b/Documentation/kernel-documentation.rst
> index 0dd17069bc0b..5bffe5a418aa 100644
> --- a/Documentation/kernel-documentation.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-documentation.rst
> @@ -77,9 +77,27 @@ Specific guidelines for the kernel documentation
>
> Here are some specific guidelines for the kernel documentation:
>
> -* Please don't go overboard with reStructuredText markup. Keep it simple.
> +* Please don't go overboard with reStructuredText markup. Keep it simple. A lot
> + of core kernel developers prefer plain text, with a big emphasis on plain. In
> + the end if we have pretty generated docs which the subject experts don't
> + like to edit and keep up-to-date everyone loses.
>
> -* Please stick to this order of heading adornments:
> + Be especially considerate when converting existing documentation. There's a
> + wide scale from annotating every little bit with in-line styles to only
> + touching up the bare minimum needed to integrate an existing file into the
> + larger documentation. Please align with the wishes of the maintainer to make
> + sure that documentations stays useful for everyone.
I think this is about where I figured out why I'm not 100% ready to jump on
this. What we're doing here is mixing two things: information on how to
write documents, and information on how to convert existing documents.
I'm not really opposed to applying the patch as-is, but I do wonder if what
we really need is a new section aimed specifically at people doing
conversions? The concerns *are* a bit different, and there's more
information we could put into a conversion section that isn't relevant to
others. Plus we could remove it some day far in the future when
everything's converted :)
> +* Don't just blindly convert documents, also carefully review them and fix up
> + any issues in the text itself. Updated docs might trick readers into believing
> + they're accurately reflecting current best practice, which would be rather
> + harmful if the text itself is entirely outdated.
> +
> +* When converting existing documents, please try to retain the existing heading
> + styles as much as possible. Sphinx accept almost anything, as long as it's
accept*s* (or "will accept")
> + consistent and headings all start in column 1.
> +
> + For new documents please stick to this order of heading adornments:
>
> 1. ``=`` with overline for document title::
>
> @@ -107,6 +125,12 @@ Here are some specific guidelines for the kernel documentation:
> the order as encountered."), having the higher levels the same overall makes
> it easier to follow the documents.
>
> +* For inserting fixed width text blocks (for code examples, use case
> + examples, etc.), use ``::`` for anything that doesn't really benefit
> + from syntax highlighting, especially short snippets. Use
> + ``.. code-block:: <language>`` for longer code blocks that benefit
> + from highlighting.
> +
I think we should add a sentence somewhere saying:
Note that, if the sentence before the block ends with ":", you can simply
add a second colon rather than putting in a separate "::" line.
I've had to tell a few people that. It's a tiny detail, but one that does
improve the readability of the resulting documents and reduce the
intrusiveness of conversions.
Thanks,
jon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-07 19:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-07 15:42 [PATCH] doc: Explain light-handed markup preference a bit better Daniel Vetter
2016-12-07 19:39 ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2016-12-08 9:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-08 22:06 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-12 17:47 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-12 17:54 ` Jonathan Corbet
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-12-14 13:46 Daniel Vetter
2016-11-29 9:23 Daniel Vetter
2016-11-29 10:28 ` Markus Heiser
2016-11-29 11:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-11-29 10:38 ` Jani Nikula
2016-11-29 11:43 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-11-29 15:08 ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-07 15:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-29 13:17 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-06 7:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-07 15:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-28 16:16 Daniel Vetter
2016-11-28 17:51 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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