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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Realtime queued spinlocks
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 13:49:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170104124929.GI25813@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1483466430-8028-1-git-send-email-longman@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 01:00:23PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> This patchset introduces a new variant of queued spinlocks - the
> realtime queued spinlocks. The purpose of this new variant is to
> support real spinlock in a realtime environment where high priority
> RT tasks should be allowed to complete its work ASAP. This means as
> little waiting time for spinlocks as possible.
> 
> Non-RT tasks will wait for spinlocks in the MCS waiting queue as
> usual. RT tasks and interrupts will spin directly on the spinlocks
> and use the priority value in the pending byte to arbitrate who get
> the lock first.
> 
> Patch 1 removes the unused spin_lock_bh_nested() API.
> 
> Patch 2 introduces the basic realtime queued spinlocks where the
> pending byte is used for storing the priority of the highest priority
> RT task that is waiting on the spinlock. All the RT tasks will spin
> directly on the spinlock instead of waiting in the queue.
> 


OK, so a single numerical field isn't sufficient to describe priority
anymore, since we added DEADLINE support things have gotten a lot more
complex.

Also, the whole approach worries me, it has the very real possibility of
re-introducing a bunch of starvation cases avoided by the fair lock.


Is there a real problem with -RT that inspired these patches?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-04 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-03 18:00 [RFC PATCH 0/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Realtime queued spinlocks Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] locking/spinlock: Remove the unused spin_lock_bh_nested API Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Introduce realtime queued spinlocks Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Use static RT priority when in interrupt context Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Override spin_lock_nested with special RT variants Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Handle priority boosting Waiman Long
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Voluntarily yield CPU when need_sched() Waiman Long
2017-01-04 10:07   ` Boqun Feng
2017-01-04 21:57     ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 10:16   ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-01-03 18:00 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Enable collection of event counts Waiman Long
2017-01-04 12:49 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-01-04 15:25   ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] locking/rtqspinlock: Realtime queued spinlocks Waiman Long
2017-01-04 15:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-01-04 20:02       ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 18:43         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-01-05  9:26     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2017-01-05  9:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-05 15:55       ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 16:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-05 17:07           ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 18:50             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-01-05 19:24               ` Waiman Long
2017-01-05 18:05           ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira

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