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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/master v3] kprobes: extable: Identify kprobes' insn-slots as kernel text area
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 13:22:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170108132242.9fe3e09e97de0a29c06178b5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170104100102.GE25813@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 11:01:02 +0100
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 02:06:04PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:54:02 +0100
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > > How many entries should one expect on that list? I spend quite a bit of
> > > time reducing the cost of is_module_text_address() a while back and see
> > > that both ftrace (which actually needs this to be fast) and now
> > > kprobes have linear list walks in here.
> > 
> > It depends on how many probes are used and optimized. However, in most
> > cases, there should be one entry (unless user defines optimized probes
> > over 32 on x86, from my experience, it is very rare case. :) )
> 
> OK, that's good :-)

OK, I'll add above comment on the patch.

> 
> > > I'm assuming the ftrace thing to be mostly empty, since I never saw it
> > > on my benchmarks back then, but it is something Steve should look at I
> > > suppose.
> > > 
> > > Similarly, the changelog here should include some talk about worst case
> > > costs.
> > 
> > Would you have any good benchmark to measure it?
> 
> Not trivially so; what I did was cobble together a debugfs file that
> measures the average of the PMI time in perf_sample_event_took(), and a
> module that has a 10 deep callchain around a while(1) loop. Then perf
> record with callchains for a few seconds.
> 
> Generating the callchain does the unwinder thing and ends up calling
> is_kernel_address() lots.
> 
> The case I worked on was 0 modules vs 100+ modules in a distro build,
> which was fairly obviously painful back then, since
> is_module_text_address() used a linear lookup.
> 
> I'm not sure I still have all those bits, but I can dig around a bit if
> you're interested.

Hmm, I tried to do similar thing (make a test module which has a loop with
10 deep recursive call and save stack-trace) on kvm, but got very unstable
results.
Maybe it needs to run on bare-metal machine.

Thanks,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-08  4:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-22  6:42 Detecting kprobes generated code addresses Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-25  3:13 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-12-25  6:16   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-12-26  4:30     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-12-26 14:50       ` [PATCH tip/master] kprobes: extable: Identify kprobes' insn-slots as kernel text area Masami Hiramatsu
2016-12-26 15:34       ` [PATCH tip/master v2] " Masami Hiramatsu
2016-12-26 17:21         ` kbuild test robot
2016-12-26 17:46         ` kbuild test robot
2016-12-27  6:13         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2016-12-27  6:14       ` [PATCH tip/master v3] " Masami Hiramatsu
2017-01-03 10:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-04  5:06           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-01-04 10:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-08  4:22               ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2017-01-08 12:31                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-01-08 14:58               ` [PATCH tip/master v4] " Masami Hiramatsu
2017-01-09 17:36                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-10  1:11                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-01-10  8:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-10 21:42                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-11  9:57                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-01-14  9:56                 ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes, extable: Identify kprobes trampolines " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-01-04 14:21           ` [PATCH tip/master v3] kprobes: extable: Identify kprobes' insn-slots " Steven Rostedt

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