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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	jeremy.linton@arm.com, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: Perf hotplug lockup in v4.9-rc8
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:59:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170111145920.GB26344@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161209135900.GU3174@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi Peter,

Sorry for the delay; this fell into my backlog over the holiday.

On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 02:59:00PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> So while I went back and forth trying to make that less ugly, I figured
> there was another problem.
> 
> Imagine the cpu_function_call() hitting the 'right' cpu, but not finding
> the task current. It will then continue to install the event in the
> context. However, that doesn't stop another CPU from pulling the task in
> question from our rq and scheduling it elsewhere.
> 
> This all lead me to the below patch.. Now it has a rather large comment,
> and while it represents my current thinking on the matter, I'm not at
> all sure its entirely correct. I got my brain in a fair twist while
> writing it.
> 
> Please as to carefully think about it.

FWIW, I've given the below a spin on a few systems, and with it applied
my reproducer no longer triggers the issue.

Unfortunately, most of the ordering concerns have gone over my head. :/

> @@ -2331,13 +2330,36 @@ perf_install_in_context(struct perf_event_context *ctx,
>  	/*
>  	 * Installing events is tricky because we cannot rely on ctx->is_active
>  	 * to be set in case this is the nr_events 0 -> 1 transition.
> +	 *
> +	 * Instead we use task_curr(), which tells us if the task is running.
> +	 * However, since we use task_curr() outside of rq::lock, we can race
> +	 * against the actual state. This means the result can be wrong.
> +	 *
> +	 * If we get a false positive, we retry, this is harmless.
> +	 *
> +	 * If we get a false negative, things are complicated. If we are after
> +	 * perf_event_context_sched_in() ctx::lock will serialize us, and the
> +	 * value must be correct. If we're before, it doesn't matter since
> +	 * perf_event_context_sched_in() will program the counter.
> +	 *
> +	 * However, this hinges on the remote context switch having observed
> +	 * our task->perf_event_ctxp[] store, such that it will in fact take
> +	 * ctx::lock in perf_event_context_sched_in().

Sorry if I'm being thick here, but which store are we describing above?
i.e. which function, how does that relate to perf_install_in_context()?

I haven't managed to wrap my head around why this matters. :/

Thanks,
Mark.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-11 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-07 13:53 Perf hotplug lockup in v4.9-rc8 Mark Rutland
2016-12-07 14:30 ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-07 16:39   ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-07 17:53 ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-07 18:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-07 19:56     ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-09 13:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-12 11:46       ` Will Deacon
2016-12-12 12:42         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-22  8:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-22 14:00             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-22 16:33               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-01-11 14:59       ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-01-11 16:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-11 16:26           ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-11 19:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-14 12:28       ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf/core: Fix sys_perf_event_open() vs. hotplug tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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