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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Tikhomirov <ptikhomirov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Stanislav Kinsburskiy <skinsbursky@virtuozzo.com>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mguzik@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@virtuozzo.com>,
	Konstantin Khorenko <khorenko@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] prctl: propagate has_child_subreaper flag to every descendant
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:55:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170123115534.GA11827@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4908be49-d3c3-366d-0fd1-05249ef4ecef@virtuozzo.com>

On 01/22, Pavel Tikhomirov wrote:
>
> >
> >Hmm. could you explain how this change helps CRIU? I mean, why
> >restorer can't do prctl(CHILD_SUBREAPER) before the first fork?
>
> Imagine we have these tree in pidns:
>
> 1: has_child_subreaper == 0 && is_child_subreaper == 0
> |-2: has_child_subreaper == 0 && is_child_subreaper == 1
> | |-3: has_child_subreaper == 0 && is_child_subreaper == 0
> | | |-5: has_child_subreaper == 0 && is_child_subreaper == 0
> | |-4: has_child_subreaper == 1 && is_child_subreaper == 0
> | | |-6: has_child_subreaper == 1 && is_child_subreaper == 0
>
> before c/r: If 4 dies 6 will reparent to 2, if 3 dies 5 will reparent to 1.
> after c/r: (where restorer had is_child_subreaper == 1, everybody in the
> tree will have has_child_subreaper == 1) Everybody will reparent to 2.

This is clear, but this can only happen if 2 forks 3 and after that
sets is_child_subreaper, right?

And if someone actually does this then your patch can break this
application, no?

IOW. Currently CRIU can't restore the process tree with the same
has_child_subreaper bits if some process forks before
prctl(PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER). It restores the tree as if prctl()
was called before the 1st fork.

So you change the semantics of PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER and now CRIU
is fine simply because you remove this feature: the sub-reaper can
no longer pre-fork the children which should reparent to the previous
reaper.

I won't really argure, but I am not sure this is good idea... At least
I think this should be clearly documented.

> >You don't need this new member and descendants_lock. task_struct has
> >the ->real_parent pointer so you can work the tree without recursion.
>
> Sorry I don't get how I can walk down the tree of all descendants with help
> of ->real_parent pointer, can you please point on some example or explain a
> bit more? (I see task_is_descendant() in security/yama/yama_lsm.c but we
> will need to check it for every process, not only descendants, the latter
> can be a lot faster.)

I'll send a patch, probably a generic helper makes sense.

Btw task_is_descendant() looks wrong at first glance.

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-23 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-19 16:43 [PATCH] prctl: propagate has_child_subreaper flag to every descendant Pavel Tikhomirov
2017-01-20 18:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-22 10:00   ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2017-01-22 10:11   ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2017-01-23 11:55     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2017-01-23 12:52       ` task_is_descendant() cleanup Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-25 21:59         ` Kees Cook
2017-01-30 13:49           ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-23 14:30       ` [PATCH] prctl: propagate has_child_subreaper flag to every descendant Pavel Tikhomirov
2017-01-23 16:06         ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-23 11:57 ` [PATCH] introduce the walk_process_tree() helper Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-23 12:07   ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-24 15:01   ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2017-01-23 16:44 ` setns() && PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-23 18:21   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-24 14:07     ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-24 15:24       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-30 18:16         ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-01-30 18:17         ` [PATCH] exit: fix the setns() && PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER interaction Oleg Nesterov

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