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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] usb: dbc: early driver for xhci debug capability
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 09:20:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170124082039.GB8667@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5886DBB7.4070501@linux.intel.com>


* Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> Hi Ingo,
> 
> On 01/22/2017 05:04 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>> +static void xdbc_runtime_delay(unsigned long count)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +	udelay(count);
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +static void (*xdbc_delay)(unsigned long) = xdbc_early_delay;
> >>> Is this udelay() complication really necessary? udelay() should work fine even in 
> >>> early code. It might not be precisely calibrated, but should be good enough.
> >> I tried udelay() in the early code. It's not precise enough for the
> >> hardware handshaking.
> > Possibly because on x86 early udelay() did not work at all - i.e. there's no delay 
> > whatsoever.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >
> > Could you try it on top of this commit in tip:timers/core:
> >
> >   4c45c5167c95 x86/timer: Make delay() work during early bootup
> >
> > ?
> 
> I tried tip:timers/core. It's not precise enough for my context either.
> 
> __const_udelay().
> 
> 157 inline void __const_udelay(unsigned long xloops)
> 158 {
> 159         unsigned long lpj = this_cpu_read(cpu_info.loops_per_jiffy) ? : loops_per_jiffy;
> 160         int d0;
> 161
> 162         xloops *= 4;
> 163         asm("mull %%edx"
> 164                 :"=d" (xloops), "=&a" (d0)
> 165                 :"1" (xloops), "0" (lpj * (HZ / 4)));
> 166
> 167         __delay(++xloops);
> 168 }
> 
> 
> In my early  code, loops_per_jiffy is not initialized yet. Hence "lpj" for the asm line
> is 4096 (default value).
> 
> The  cpu_info.loops_per_jiffy actually reads 8832000 after initialization. They are
> about 2000 times different.
> 
> I did a hacky test in kernel to check the difference between these two different
> "lpj" values. (The hacky patch is attached.) Below is the output for 100ms delay.
> 
> [    2.494751] udelay_test uninitialized ---->start
> [    2.494820] udelay_test uninitialized ---->end
> [    2.494828] udelay_test initialized ---->start
> [    2.595234] udelay_test initialized ---->end
> 
> For 100ms delay, udelay() with uninitialized loops_per_jiffy only gives a delay of
> only 69us.

Ok, then could we add some simple calibration to make udelay work much better - or 
perhaps move the udelay calibration up earlier?

Hiding essentially an early udelay() implementation in an early-printk driver is 
ugly and counterproductive.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-24  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-15  6:02 [PATCH v5 0/4] usb: early: add support for early printk through USB3 debug port Lu Baolu
2016-11-15  6:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] usb: dbc: early driver for xhci debug capability Lu Baolu
2017-01-19  9:37   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-20  2:47     ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-22  9:04       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-24  4:44         ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-24  8:20           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-01-25  5:28             ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-25  9:23               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-25  9:57                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-25 12:27                   ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-25 14:38                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-25 15:51                       ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-25 16:16                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-26  3:37                           ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-26  7:19                             ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-26  7:49                               ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-26  8:17                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-26 10:28                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-26 16:01                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-26 17:39                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-27  6:51                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-02-09  5:59                               ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-26  7:22                         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-02-09  7:37                           ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-25 12:17                 ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-26  3:26                 ` Lu Baolu
2016-11-15  6:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] x86: add support for earlyprintk via USB3 debug port Lu Baolu
2017-01-19  9:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-20  2:48     ` Lu Baolu
2016-11-15  6:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] usb: serial: usb_debug: add support for dbc debug device Lu Baolu
2017-01-19  9:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-20  2:50     ` Lu Baolu
2016-11-15  6:02 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] usb: doc: add document for USB3 debug port usage Lu Baolu
2017-01-19  9:41   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-20  2:53     ` Lu Baolu
2017-01-18  6:20 ` [PATCH v5 0/4] usb: early: add support for early printk through USB3 debug port Lu Baolu
2017-01-19  9:06   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-01-19  9:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-19 11:24       ` Mathias Nyman
2017-01-19  9:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-01-20  2:56   ` Lu Baolu

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