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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Ross Zwisler <zwisler@gmail.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Calvin Owens <calvinowens@fb.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 6/8] printk: use printk_safe buffers in printk
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 19:03:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170202100348.GA364@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170202090722.GW6515@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On (02/02/17 10:07), Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 11:11:34AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > On (02/01/17 16:39), Petr Mladek wrote:
> > [..]
> > > I guess that you are talking about the introduction of
> > > #define SCHED_WARN_ON(x)	WARN_ONCE(x, #x)
> > 
> > my guess would be that Jan was talking about printk_deferred() patch.
> > it's on my TODO list.
> > 
> > I want to entirely remove console_sem and scheduler out of printk() path.
> > that's the only way to make printk() deadlock safe.
> 
> And useless.. if you never get around to the 'later' part where you
> print the content. This way you still mostly get the output.

well, I wouldn't say that printk_deferred() has less chances. I see your
point, of course. but with printk_deferred() we, at least, will have messages
in logbuf (or printk_safe buffers), so they can appear in crash dump, for
instance. that "later" part can be sysrq, for example, or panic->flush_on_panic(),
etc. if "normal" printk->queue irq_work doesn't work.

needless to say, that in this particular case (WARN from sched), if the
first printk() out of N printk()-s, which sched core calls to dump_stack(),
deadlocks, then we got nothing to print/dump.

> And no, its not the only way, see my printk->early_printk patches. early
> serial console only does a loop over outb, impossible to mess that up.

certainly :)

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-02 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-27 14:16 [PATCHv7 0/8] printk: use printk_safe to handle printk() recursive calls Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-27 14:16 ` [PATCHv7 1/8] printk: use vprintk_func in vprintk() Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-27 14:16 ` [PATCHv7 2/8] printk: rename nmi.c and exported api Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-04 13:07   ` Petr Mladek
2017-02-01 15:48   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-02-01 15:50     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-02-23  7:50   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-02-23  8:02     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-23  9:23       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-27 14:16 ` [PATCHv7 3/8] printk: introduce per-cpu safe_print seq buffer Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-04 13:31   ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-05  1:01     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-01 15:52   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-12-27 14:16 ` [PATCHv7 4/8] printk: always use deferred printk when flush printk_safe lines Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-01 16:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-02-02  6:05     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-02 15:37       ` Petr Mladek
2017-02-02 15:52         ` Petr Mladek
2017-02-03  2:04           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-03 11:18             ` Petr Mladek
2017-02-06  1:48               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-06  2:08                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-06 12:16                   ` Petr Mladek
2017-02-06 13:27                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-02-06 16:42                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-06 16:55                         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-12-27 14:16 ` [PATCHv7 5/8] printk: report lost messages in printk safe/nmi contexts Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-04 14:46   ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-05  1:01     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-01 16:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-02-02  2:02     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-02 14:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-02-02 16:13         ` Petr Mladek
2017-02-03  1:57         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-03  3:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2016-12-27 14:16 ` [PATCHv7 6/8] printk: use printk_safe buffers in printk Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-31 17:27   ` Ross Zwisler
2017-02-01  9:06     ` Jan Kara
2017-02-01  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-01 15:39         ` Petr Mladek
2017-02-01 16:15           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-01 16:41             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-02-02  2:11           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-02  9:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-02 10:03               ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2017-02-02 15:20                 ` Petr Mladek
2017-02-03  2:45                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-02  1:59     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-02-01 17:04   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-02-02  2:13     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-27 14:16 ` [PATCHv7 7/8] printk: remove zap_locks() function Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-27 14:16 ` [PATCHv7 8/8] printk: convert the rest to printk-safe Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-04 16:28   ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-05  1:00     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-01-05 16:58 ` [PATCHv7 0/8] printk: use printk_safe to handle printk() recursive calls Petr Mladek

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