From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, juri.lelli@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
xlpang@redhat.com, bigeasy@linutronix.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
jdesfossez@efficios.com, bristot@redhat.com,
dvhart@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v5 14/14] futex: futex_unlock_pi() determinism
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 10:25:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170313092542.GJ3343@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1703071526110.3584@nanos>
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 03:31:50PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > The problem with returning -EAGAIN when the waiter state mismatches is
> > that it becomes very hard to proof a bounded execution time on the
> > operation. And seeing that this is a RT operation, this is somewhat
> > important.
> >
> > While in practise it will be very unlikely to ever really take more
> > than one or two rounds, proving so becomes rather hard.
>
> Oh no. Assume the following:
>
> T1 and T2 are both pinned to CPU0. prio(T2) > prio(T1)
>
> CPU0
>
> T1
> lock_pi()
> queue_me() <- Waiter is visible
>
> preemption
>
> T2
> unlock_pi()
> loops with -EAGAIN forever
So this is true before the last patch; but if we look at the locking
changes brought by that (pasting its changelog here):
Before:
futex_lock_pi() futex_unlock_pi()
unlock hb->lock
lock hb->lock
unlock hb->lock
lock rt_mutex->wait_lock
unlock rt_mutex_wait_lock
-EAGAIN
lock rt_mutex->wait_lock
list_add
unlock rt_mutex->wait_lock
schedule()
lock rt_mutex->wait_lock
list_del
unlock rt_mutex->wait_lock
<idem>
-EAGAIN
lock hb->lock
After:
futex_lock_pi() futex_unlock_pi()
lock hb->lock
lock rt_mutex->wait_lock
list_add
unlock rt_mutex->wait_lock
unlock hb->lock
schedule()
lock hb->lock
unlock hb->lock
lock hb->lock
lock rt_mutex->wait_lock
list_del
unlock rt_mutex->wait_lock
lock rt_mutex->wait_lock
unlock rt_mutex_wait_lock
-EAGAIN
unlock hb->lock
Your T2 (of higher prio) would block on T1's hb->lock and boost T1
(since hb->lock is an rt_mutex).
Alternatively (!PREEMPT_FULL), the interleave cannot happen (when pinned
to a single CPU) because then hb->lock disables preemption, it being a
spinlock.
Unless I need to go drink more wake-up-juice..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-13 9:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-04 9:27 [PATCH -v5 00/14] the saga of FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI wobbles continues Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 01/14] futex: Fix potential use-after-free in FUTEX_REQUEUE_PI Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-14 20:48 ` [tip:locking/urgent] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 02/14] futex: Add missing error handling to FUTEX_REQUEUE_PI Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-14 20:49 ` [tip:locking/urgent] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 03/14] futex: Cleanup variable names for futex_top_waiter() Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 04/14] futex: Use smp_store_release() in mark_wake_futex() Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 05/14] futex: Remove rt_mutex_deadlock_account_*() Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 06/14] futex,rt_mutex: Provide futex specific rt_mutex API Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 07/14] futex: Change locking rules Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-07 13:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-07 16:47 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-03-07 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 08/14] futex: Cleanup refcounting Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 09/14] futex: Rework inconsistent rt_mutex/futex_q state Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-07 13:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 10/14] futex: Pull rt_mutex_futex_unlock() out from under hb->lock Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-07 14:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-07 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 11/14] futex,rt_mutex: Introduce rt_mutex_init_waiter() Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 12/14] futex,rt_mutex: Restructure rt_mutex_finish_proxy_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-07 14:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-07 17:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-07 17:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-08 15:29 ` [PATCH] futex: move debug_rt_mutex_free_waiter() further down Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-03-08 15:37 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-03-08 16:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-03-08 16:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-03-13 9:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 13/14] futex: Rework futex_lock_pi() to use rt_mutex_*_proxy_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-04 9:27 ` [PATCH -v5 14/14] futex: futex_unlock_pi() determinism Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-07 14:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-07 17:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-13 9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-03-13 14:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-13 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
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