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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 2/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Avoid decreasing frequency of busy CPUs
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:08:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170321150820.GF11054@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1844525.jBn1oKmyb6@aspire.rjw.lan>

On 21-Mar 15:46, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 02:38:42 PM Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > On 21-Mar 15:26, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 02:37:08 PM Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > > On 21 March 2017 at 14:22, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:50:28AM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > > >> On 20 March 2017 at 22:46, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> > To work around this issue use the observation that, from the
> > > > >> > schedutil governor's perspective, it does not make sense to decrease
> > > > >> > the frequency of a CPU that doesn't enter idle and avoid decreasing
> > > > >> > the frequency of busy CPUs.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I don't fully agree with that statement.
> > > > >> If there are 2 runnable tasks on CPU A and scheduler migrates the
> > > > >> waiting task to another CPU B so CPU A is less loaded now, it makes
> > > > >> sense to reduce the OPP. That's even for that purpose that we have
> > > > >> decided to use scheduler metrics in cpufreq governor so we can adjust
> > > > >> OPP immediately when tasks migrate.
> > > > >> That being said, i probably know why you see such OPP switches in your
> > > > >> use case. When we migrate a task, we also migrate/remove its
> > > > >> utilization from CPU.
> > > > >> If the CPU is not overloaded, it means that runnable tasks have all
> > > > >> computation that they need and don't have any reason to use more when
> > > > >> a task migrates to another CPU. so decreasing the OPP makes sense
> > > > >> because the utilzation is decreasing
> > > > >> If the CPU is overloaded, it means that runnable tasks have to share
> > > > >> CPU time and probably don't have all computations that they would like
> > > > >> so when a task migrate, the remaining tasks on the CPU will increase
> > > > >> their utilization and fill space left by the task that has just
> > > > >> migrated. So the CPU's utilization will decrease when a task migrates
> > > > >> (and as a result the OPP) but then its utilization will increase with
> > > > >> remaining tasks running more time as well as the OPP
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So you need to make the difference between this 2 cases: Is a CPU
> > > > >> overloaded or not. You can't really rely on the utilization to detect
> > > > >> that but you could take advantage of the load which take into account
> > > > >> the waiting time of tasks
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm confused. What two cases? You only list the overloaded case, but he
> > > > 
> > > > overloaded vs not overloaded use case.
> > > > For the not overloaded case, it makes sense to immediately update to
> > > > OPP to be aligned with the new utilization of the CPU even if it was
> > > > not idle in the past couple of ticks
> > > 
> > > Yes, if the OPP (or P-state if you will) can be changed immediately.  If it can't,
> > > conditions may change by the time we actually update it and in that case It'd
> > > be better to wait and see IMO.
> > > 
> > > In any case, the theory about migrating tasks made sense to me, so below is
> > > what I tested.  It works, and besides it has a nice feature that I don't need
> > > to fetch for the timekeeping data. :-)
> > > 
> > > I only wonder if we want to do this or only prevent the frequency from
> > > decreasing in the overloaded case?
> > > 
> > > ---
> > >  kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c |    8 +++++---
> > >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > Index: linux-pm/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> > > ===================================================================
> > > --- linux-pm.orig/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> > > +++ linux-pm/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> > > @@ -61,6 +61,7 @@ struct sugov_cpu {
> > >  	unsigned long util;
> > >  	unsigned long max;
> > >  	unsigned int flags;
> > > +	bool overload;
> > >  };
> > >  
> > >  static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sugov_cpu, sugov_cpu);
> > > @@ -207,7 +208,7 @@ static void sugov_update_single(struct u
> > >  	if (!sugov_should_update_freq(sg_policy, time))
> > >  		return;
> > >  
> > > -	if (flags & SCHED_CPUFREQ_RT_DL) {
> > > +	if ((flags & SCHED_CPUFREQ_RT_DL) || this_rq()->rd->overload) {
> > >  		next_f = policy->cpuinfo.max_freq;
> > 
> > Isn't this going to max OPP every time we have more than 1 task in
> > that CPU?
> > 
> > In that case it will not fit the case: we have two 10% tasks on that CPU.
> 
> Good point.
> 
> > Previous solution was better IMO, apart from using overloaded instead
> > of overutilized (which is not yet there) :-/
> 
> OK, so the one below works too.

Better... just one minor comment.


> ---
>  kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c |   11 +++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
> 
> Index: linux-pm/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-pm.orig/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> +++ linux-pm/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@ struct sugov_policy {
>  	s64 freq_update_delay_ns;
>  	unsigned int next_freq;
>  	unsigned int cached_raw_freq;
> +	bool overload;

Can we avoid using "overloaded" in favor of a more generic and
schedutil specific name. Mainly because in the future we would
probably like to switch from "overloaded" to "overutilized".

What about something like: "busy" ?

>  
>  	/* The next fields are only needed if fast switch cannot be used. */
>  	struct irq_work irq_work;
> @@ -61,6 +62,7 @@ struct sugov_cpu {
>  	unsigned long util;
>  	unsigned long max;
>  	unsigned int flags;
> +	bool overload;
>  };
>  
>  static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct sugov_cpu, sugov_cpu);
> @@ -93,6 +95,9 @@ static void sugov_update_commit(struct s
>  {
>  	struct cpufreq_policy *policy = sg_policy->policy;
>  
> +	if (sg_policy->overload && next_freq < sg_policy->next_freq)
> +		next_freq = sg_policy->next_freq;
> +
>  	if (policy->fast_switch_enabled) {
>  		if (sg_policy->next_freq == next_freq) {
>  			trace_cpu_frequency(policy->cur, smp_processor_id());
> @@ -207,6 +212,8 @@ static void sugov_update_single(struct u
>  	if (!sugov_should_update_freq(sg_policy, time))
>  		return;
>  
> +	sg_policy->overload = this_rq()->rd->overload;

And than we can move this bit into an inline function, something like e.g.:

   static inline bool sugov_this_cpu_is_busy()
   {
           return this_rq()->rd->overloaded
   }

Where in future we can easily switch from usage of "overloaded" to
usage of "utilization".

> +
>  	if (flags & SCHED_CPUFREQ_RT_DL) {
>  		next_f = policy->cpuinfo.max_freq;
>  	} else {
> @@ -225,6 +232,8 @@ static unsigned int sugov_next_freq_shar
>  	unsigned long util = 0, max = 1;
>  	unsigned int j;
>  
> +	sg_policy->overload = false;
> +
>  	for_each_cpu(j, policy->cpus) {
>  		struct sugov_cpu *j_sg_cpu = &per_cpu(sugov_cpu, j);
>  		unsigned long j_util, j_max;
> @@ -253,6 +262,7 @@ static unsigned int sugov_next_freq_shar
>  		}
>  
>  		sugov_iowait_boost(j_sg_cpu, &util, &max);
> +		sg_policy->overload = sg_policy->overload || sg_cpu->overload;
>  	}
>  
>  	return get_next_freq(sg_policy, util, max);
> @@ -273,6 +283,7 @@ static void sugov_update_shared(struct u
>  	sg_cpu->util = util;
>  	sg_cpu->max = max;
>  	sg_cpu->flags = flags;
> +	sg_cpu->overload = this_rq()->rd->overload;
>  
>  	sugov_set_iowait_boost(sg_cpu, time, flags);
>  	sg_cpu->last_update = time;
> 

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-21 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-19 13:21 [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Fix and optimization Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-19 13:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Fix per-CPU structure initialization in sugov_start() Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20  3:28   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-03-20 12:36     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-19 13:34 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Force max frequency on busy CPUs Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-19 21:24   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-19 21:42     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 10:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-20 12:31       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20  3:57   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-03-20  8:26     ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-20 12:34       ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-22 23:56         ` Joel Fernandes
2017-03-23 22:08           ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-25  3:48             ` Joel Fernandes
2017-03-27  6:59               ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-20 12:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 13:20         ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-20 12:48     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 10:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-20 12:35     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-20 13:04         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 13:06         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-20 13:05           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-20 14:13             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-20 21:46   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Avoid decreasing frequency of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21  6:40     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-03-21 12:30       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21  8:50     ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 11:56       ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 13:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 13:37         ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 14:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 14:18             ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 14:25             ` Patrick Bellasi
     [not found]             ` <CAKfTPtALorn7HNpz4LOfWWSc3u+9y5iHB5byzfTHGQXDA+tVJQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-03-21 14:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 17:00                 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 17:01                   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-21 14:26           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 14:38             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 14:46               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 14:50                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 15:04                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 15:18                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 17:00                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 17:17                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 15:08                 ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2017-03-21 15:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 19:28                     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 15:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-21 11:50     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-03-21 23:08     ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Avoid reducing frequency of busy CPUs prematurely Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-22  9:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-22  9:54       ` Viresh Kumar
2017-03-23  1:04       ` Joel Fernandes
2017-03-23 19:26       ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-23 20:48         ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-24  1:39         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-24 19:08           ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-25  1:14       ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-25  1:39         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-27  7:04         ` Vincent Guittot
2017-03-27 21:01           ` Sai Gurrappadi
2017-03-27 21:11             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-08  3:49       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-08  4:01         ` Viresh Kumar
2017-05-08  5:15           ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-08 22:16           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-05-08 22:36             ` Wanpeng Li
2017-05-08 23:01               ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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