From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Tommaso Cucinotta <tommaso.cucinotta@sssup.it>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v5 8/9] sched/deadline: base GRUB reclaiming on the inactive utilization
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 19:02:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170327190253.00025dbb@sweethome> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170327155335.yfmpulff5o5pyzro@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:53:35 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 04:56:51PM +0200, Luca Abeni wrote:
>
> > > > +u64 grub_reclaim(u64 delta, struct rq *rq, u64 u)
> > > > {
> > > > + u64 u_act;
> > > > +
> > > > + if (rq->dl.this_bw - rq->dl.running_bw > (1 << 20) - u)
> > > > + u_act = u;
> > > > + else
> > > > + u_act = (1 << 20) - rq->dl.this_bw +
> > > > rq->dl.running_bw; +
> > > > + return (delta * u_act) >> 20;
> > >
> > > But that's not what is done here I think, something like this
> > > instead:
> > >
> > > Uinact = Utot - Uact
> > >
> > > -t_u dt ; Uinact > (1 - t_u)
> > > dq = {
> > > -(1 - Uinact) dt
> > >
> > >
> > > And nowhere do we have an explanation for that.
> >
> > Sorry about this confusion... The accounting should be
> > dq = -(1 - Uinact)dt
> > but if (1 - Uinact) is too large (larger than the task's
> > utilization) then we use the task's utilization instead (otherwise,
> > we end up reclaiming other runqueues' time). I realized that this
> > check was needed after writing the comments, and I forgot to update
> > the comments when I fixed the code :(
> >
> > > Now, I suspect we can write that like: dq = -max{ t_u, (1 -
> > > Uinact) } dt, which would suggest this is a sanity check on Utot,
> > > which I suspect can be over 1. Is this what is happening?
> >
> > Right... I'll fix the code and comments according to your
> > suggestion.
>
> But doesn't that suggest there is now another corner case where we
> 'always' select t_u because of Utot overload?
>
> My intuition suggests we'd reclaim insufficient time in that case, but
> I've not thought much about it.
Well, setting U_act = u_i (task utilization) means that task i is
reclaiming the whole CPU time (then, the next patch will make sure that
deadline tasks cannot consume 100% of the CPU time on a single CPU).
> I feel we want a few words explaining the trade-offs made here and the
> corner cases explored.
>
> Does that make sense?
I think it is a good idea; maybe at the OSPM summit we can work on
finding the correct wording for these comments?
Thanks,
Luca
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-27 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-24 3:52 [RFC v5 0/9] CPU reclaiming for SCHED_DEADLINE luca abeni
2017-03-24 3:52 ` [RFC v5 1/9] sched/deadline: track the active utilization luca abeni
2017-03-26 17:04 ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-26 20:55 ` luca abeni
2017-03-24 3:52 ` [RFC v5 2/9] sched/deadline: improve the tracking of " luca abeni
2017-03-24 13:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-24 21:47 ` luca abeni
2017-03-25 2:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-03-27 8:20 ` Luca Abeni
2017-03-27 8:54 ` Claudio Scordino
2017-03-27 7:17 ` Juri Lelli
2017-03-27 7:43 ` Luca Abeni
2017-03-27 8:45 ` Juri Lelli
2017-03-27 7:36 ` Luca Abeni
2017-07-24 8:06 ` Luca Abeni
2017-07-24 9:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-25 6:41 ` Luca Abeni
2017-03-24 13:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-24 7:54 ` Luca Abeni
2017-07-24 9:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-25 6:46 ` Luca Abeni
2017-03-26 17:32 ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-26 21:01 ` luca abeni
2017-03-24 3:52 ` [RFC v5 3/9] sched/deadline: fix the update of the total -deadline utilization luca abeni
2017-03-24 3:52 ` [RFC v5 4/9] sched/deadline: implement GRUB accounting luca abeni
2017-03-24 3:52 ` [RFC v5 5/9] sched/deadline: do not reclaim the whole CPU bandwidth luca abeni
2017-03-24 14:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-24 21:58 ` luca abeni
2017-03-25 2:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-03-27 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-24 3:52 ` [RFC v5 6/9] sched/deadline: make GRUB a task's flag luca abeni
2017-03-24 3:53 ` [RFC v5 7/9] sched/deadline: track the "total rq utilization" too luca abeni
2017-03-24 3:53 ` [RFC v5 8/9] sched/deadline: base GRUB reclaiming on the inactive utilization luca abeni
2017-03-27 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-27 14:56 ` Luca Abeni
2017-03-27 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-27 17:02 ` luca abeni [this message]
2017-05-08 7:41 ` Luca Abeni
2017-05-08 8:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-09 9:37 ` Luca Abeni
2017-03-24 3:53 ` [RFC v5 9/9] sched/deadline: also reclaim bandwidth not used by dl tasks luca abeni
2017-03-27 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-27 14:48 ` Luca Abeni
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