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From: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Optimize __update_sched_avg()
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 03:41:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170330194118.GE16440@ydu19desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170330191355.GD16440@ydu19desktop>

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 03:13:55AM +0800, Yuyang Du wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 04:14:28PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 02:16:58PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 04:21:08AM -0700, Paul Turner wrote:
> > 
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       if (unlikely(periods >= LOAD_AVG_MAX_N))
> > > > >                 return LOAD_AVG_MAX;
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is this correct in the iterated periods > LOAD_AVG_MAX_N case?
> > > > I don't think the decay above is guaranteed to return these to zero.
> > > 
> > > Ah!
> > > 
> > > Indeed, so decay_load() needs LOAD_AVG_PERIOD * 63 before it truncates
> > > to 0, because every LOAD_AVG_PERIOD we half the value; loose 1 bit; so
> > > 63 of those and we're 0.
> > > 
> > > But __accumulate_sum() OTOH returns LOAD_AVG_MAX after only
> > > LOAD_AVG_MAX_N, which < LOAD_AVG_PERIOD * 63.
> > > 
> > > So yes, combined we exceed LOAD_AVG_MAX, which is bad. Let me think what
> > > to do about that.
> > 
> > 
> > So at the very least it should be decay_load(LOAD_AVG_MAX, 1) (aka
> > LOAD_AVG_MAX - 1024), but that still doesn't account for the !0
> > decay_load() of the first segment.
> > 
> > I'm thinking that we can compute the middle segment, by taking the max
> > value and chopping off the ends, like:
> > 
> > 
> >              p
> >  c2 = 1024 \Sum y^n
> >             n=1
> > 
> >               inf        inf
> >     = 1024 ( \Sum y^n - \Sum y^n - y^0 )
> >               n=0        n=p
>  
> It looks surprisingly kinda works :)
>  
> > +	c2 = LOAD_AVG_MAX - decay_load(LOAD_AVG_MAX, periods) - 1024;
>                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> But, I'm not sure               this is what you want (just assume p==0).
> 

Oh, what I meant is when p != 0, actually p>=1.

And thinking about it for a while, it's really what you want, brilliant :)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-31  3:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-12 21:44 [RESEND PATCH 0/2] sched/fair: Add documentation and optimize __update_sched_avg() Yuyang Du
2017-02-12 21:44 ` [RESEND PATCH 1/2] documentation: Add scheduler/sched-avg.txt Yuyang Du
2017-04-14  9:28   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/Documentation: Add 'sched-pelt' tool tip-bot for Yuyang Du
2017-02-12 21:44 ` [RESEND PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Optimize __update_sched_avg() Yuyang Du
2017-03-28 12:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-28 23:57     ` Yuyang Du
2017-03-28 14:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-29  0:04     ` Yuyang Du
2017-03-29 10:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-29 18:41         ` Yuyang Du
2017-03-30 11:21         ` Paul Turner
2017-03-30 12:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-30 13:46             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-30 18:50               ` Yuyang Du
2017-03-30 14:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-30 19:13               ` Yuyang Du
2017-03-30 19:41                 ` Yuyang Du [this message]
2017-03-31  7:13                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-30 22:02               ` Paul Turner
2017-03-31  7:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-31  9:58                   ` Paul Turner
2017-03-31 11:23                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-10  7:39                       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-04-10  8:40                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-31 11:30                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-31 10:55               ` Paul Turner
2017-03-31 11:38                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-10 10:47                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-30 18:39           ` Yuyang Du
2017-03-30  8:32   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Optimize ___update_sched_avg() tip-bot for Yuyang Du
2017-02-28  0:59 ` [RESEND PATCH 0/2] sched/fair: Add documentation and optimize __update_sched_avg() Yuyang Du

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