From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Gabriel L. Somlo" <gsomlo@gmail.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 untested] kvm: better MWAIT emulation for guests
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 15:13:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170404131308.GA9826@potion> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abcfc109-296d-ec8e-2f4a-4f55f6a1b632@suse.de>
2017-04-04 14:51+0200, Alexander Graf:
> On 04/04/2017 02:39 PM, Radim Krčmář wrote:
>> 2017-04-03 12:04+0200, Alexander Graf:
>> > So coming back to the original patch, is there anything that should keep us
>> > from exposing MWAIT straight into the guest at all times?
>> Just minor issues:
>> * OS X on Core 2 fails for unknown reason if we disable the instruction
>> trapping, which is an argument against doing it by default
>
> So for that we should try and see if changing the exposed CPUID MWAIT leaf
> helps. Currently we return 0/0 which is pretty bogus and might be the reason
> OSX fails.
We have tried to pass host's CPUID MWAIT leaf and it still failed:
https://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg146686.html
I wouldn't mind breaking that particular combination of OS X and
hardware, but I'm worried to do it because we don't understand why it
broke, so there could be more ...
>> * idling guests would consume host CPU, which is a significant change
>> in behavior and shouldn't be done without userspace's involvement
>
> That's the same as today, as idling guests with MWAIT would also today end
> up in a NOP emulated loop.
>
> Please bear in mind that I do not advocate to expose the MWAIT CPUID flag.
> This is only for the instruction trap.
Ah, makes sense.
>> I think the best compromise is to add a capability for the MWAIT VM-exit
>> controls and let userspace expose MWAIT if it wishes to.
>> Will send a patch.
>
> Please see my patch to force enable CPUID bits ;).
Nice. MWAIT could also use setting of arbitrary values for its leaf,
but a generic interface for that would probably look clunky on the
command line ...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-04 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-15 21:22 [PATCH v5 untested] kvm: better MWAIT emulation for guests Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-15 23:35 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-15 23:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 13:24 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 14:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 14:58 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 15:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 15:35 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-16 16:01 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-16 16:47 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 17:22 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-16 17:39 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 17:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 17:41 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 18:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 19:24 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 19:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 20:17 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 21:14 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-17 2:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-17 13:23 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-21 3:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-21 16:58 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-21 17:29 ` Nadav Amit
2017-03-21 19:22 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-21 22:51 ` Gabriel Somlo
2017-03-22 0:02 ` Nadav Amit
2017-03-22 13:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-22 14:10 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-22 14:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 16:16 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 16:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 16:52 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 16:54 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 17:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-16 17:38 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-16 14:08 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-16 15:44 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-16 15:54 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-16 16:26 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2017-03-21 16:16 ` Joerg Roedel
2017-03-21 18:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-03-27 13:34 ` Alexander Graf
2017-03-28 14:28 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-03-28 20:35 ` Jim Mattson
2017-03-29 12:11 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-03 10:04 ` Alexander Graf
2017-04-04 12:39 ` Radim Krčmář
2017-04-04 12:51 ` Alexander Graf
2017-04-04 13:13 ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2017-04-04 13:15 ` Alexander Graf
2017-04-04 13:44 ` Radim Krčmář
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