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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCHv2 2/8] printk: introduce printing kernel thread
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 09:21:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170407072143.GB11792@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170407051244.GB487@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain>

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Hi!

> spin_dump() and trigger_all_cpu_backtrace() result in a bunch of
> additional printk()-s so CPU0 has even more job to do in console_unlock(),
> while it still holds the contended spin_lock. and so on; there are
> many other examples.
> 
> so should we declare a "we can spend only 2 seconds in direct printk()
> and then must offload printing" rule? I don't think it's much better
> than a simpler "we always offload, as long as we think it's safe".

I believe we should do the 2 seconds rule. It allows us to print "some
messages delayed" message, so at least whoever is trying to debug the
crash will have the hints that he needs to look at the printk system.

"we always offload, as long as we think it's safe" rule does not
really work, as printk() can not detect if it is safe or not.

									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-07  7:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-29  9:25 [RFC][PATCHv2 0/8] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-29  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCHv2 1/8] printk: move printk_pending out of per-cpu Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-31 13:09   ` Petr Mladek
2017-03-31 13:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-03 11:23       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-03 12:43         ` Petr Mladek
2017-03-29  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCHv2 2/8] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-04  9:01   ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-04  9:36     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-06 17:14   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-07  5:12     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-07  7:21       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-04-07  8:15         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-07 12:06           ` Pavel Machek
2017-03-29  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCHv2 3/8] printk: offload printing from wake_up_klogd_work_func() Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-31 14:56   ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-04 16:15     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-29  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCHv2 4/8] pm: switch to printk.emergency mode in unsafe places Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-31 15:06   ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-06 17:20   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-09 10:59     ` Andreas Mohr
2017-04-10 12:20       ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-10 14:38         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-29  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCHv2 5/8] sysrq: " Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-31 15:37   ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-01  0:04     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-29  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCHv2 6/8] kexec: " Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-31 15:39   ` Petr Mladek
2017-03-29  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCHv2 7/8] printk: add printk emergency_mode parameter Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-03 15:29   ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-04  8:29     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-29  9:25 ` [RFC][PATCHv2 8/8] printk: enable printk offloading Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-30 21:38   ` [printk] fbc14616f4: BUG:kernel_reboot-without-warning_in_test_stage kernel test robot
2017-03-31  2:35     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-31  4:04       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-31  6:39         ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-03-31 14:47           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-03-31 15:28             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-03  9:31               ` Jan Kara
2017-04-03 10:06                 ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-06 17:33                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-07  4:44                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-07  7:15                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-07  7:46                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-07  8:14                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-07 12:10                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-07 12:44                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-07 14:40                               ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-08  6:37                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-17 13:13                                   ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-07 15:13                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-07 15:23                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-07 15:40                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-09 18:21                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-04-10  4:46                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-09 10:12                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-10  4:53                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-10 11:54                                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-10 15:08                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-10 18:48                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-11  1:46                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-11 16:19                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-12 18:43                                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-13  4:34                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-13  5:50                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-13  8:19                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-13 14:03                                           ` Petr Mladek
2017-04-14  4:42                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-07 14:29                           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-04-09  9:57                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-03 10:51               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-05  7:29           ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-04-05  8:40             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-04-03 15:42   ` [RFC][PATCHv2 8/8] printk: enable printk offloading Petr Mladek
2017-04-04 13:20     ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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