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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [RfC PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality.
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:09:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170410180941.43922e25@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1491833847.30990.77.camel@redhat.com>

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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:17:27 +0200
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:

>   Hi,
> 
> > which software have you used as representative of "reality"?  
> 
> ppc64 (big endian) virtual machine, running with qemu stdvga & bochs-drm
> driver.  Xorg with modesetting driver uses DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 (one and
> only format supported by bochs-drm), and we have to interpret that in
> bigendian byte order on the host side to get a correct display.

I wonder if that is just an oversight from trying to match OpenGL
formats to DRM formats. It's full of gotcha's.

Did you try with GLAMOR? Do you see a difference with and without
GLAMOR? Hmm, but you have no GPU support, so GLAMOR would be through a
Mesa software renderer? I think I heard someone say something about
Mesa software on BE...

But even if this actually is a valid example of software we must keep
working as is, well, ouch. But if I cannot show that your fix breaks
anything, then I suppose you win. Your proposal would certainly solve
the dilemma we have with wl_shm formats in Wayland.

I also wonder if a real BE machine could have different results than
the virtual machine.


Thanks,
pq

> Didn't try wayland.  Can do, but will take a while.  Don't have a
> wayland-capable guest install at hand, and installing one takes a while
> because I don't have a physical pseries and emulation is slooooww.
> 
> > To solve that problem, we would like to know if anything existing would
> > break for each possible solution, but no developers using BE have really
> > turned up.  
> 
> That is part of the problem.
> And even ppc is moving to little endian these days ...
> 
> cheers,
>   Gerd
> 


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-10 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-10 10:12 [RfC PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-10 12:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-10 16:28   ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 13:12 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 14:17   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-10 14:45     ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-10 16:26       ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 15:09     ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2017-04-10 16:10       ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-11  7:31         ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-11 11:23           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-13  7:44             ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-11 14:18           ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-17  6:43             ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-18  2:53               ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18  5:04                 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-18  5:58                   ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18 10:14                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-19  1:01                       ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-19  3:19                         ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19  3:28                           ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19  7:09                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-19 12:34                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 10:00       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 11:18         ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-18 13:39           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 14:01             ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-18 20:50               ` Gerd Hoffmann

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