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From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, jack@suse.cz,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 -tip 0/6] locking: Introduce range reader/writer lock
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:36:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170420183646.GF20746@linux-80c1.suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170420175350.44mvhizyulyzb6oc@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

>On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:13:26AM -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>
>> I have thought of some heuristics for avoiding sleeping under certain
>> constraints, which could mitigate the spinning step we loose, but I fear it
>> will never be exactly as fast as rwsems -- just consider
>> we always take the tree->lock.
>
>But tree->lock is a spinlock, so while this gets us out of rwsem-xadd
>territory for the fast paths, the whole lock-stealing and optimistic
>spinning stuff is on a different scale.

Oh, absolutely. I was merely pointing out the differences at a hair
splitting level.

>Those are about avoiding actually going to sleep and having to be woken
>up (and waiting to become running) again, which is a long time.

Yes, which is why I was thinking of ways to mitigate this. Ie: for
blocked writers with low counts of 'blocking_ranges'.

Thanks,
Davidlohr

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-20 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-06  8:46 [PATCH v2 -tip 0/6] locking: Introduce range reader/writer lock Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-06  8:46 ` [PATCH 1/6] interval-tree: Build unconditionally Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-06  8:46 ` [PATCH 2/6] locking: Introduce range reader/writer lock Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-06  9:01   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-04-06 16:50     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-13  8:07       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-04-13  8:38         ` Jan Kara
2017-04-13  8:58           ` Laurent Dufour
2017-04-06 10:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-18 13:57   ` Laurent Dufour
2017-04-20 16:01     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-21  7:00       ` Laurent Dufour
2017-04-06  8:46 ` [PATCH 3/6] locking/locktorture: Fix rwsem reader_delay Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-06  8:46 ` [PATCH 4/6] locking/locktorture: Fix num reader/writer corner cases Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-06  8:46 ` [PATCH 5/6] locking/locktorture: Support range rwlocks Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-06  8:46 ` [PATCH 6/6] staging/lustre: Use generic range rwlock Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-07 10:08   ` Dilger, Andreas
2017-04-19 12:37 ` [PATCH v2 -tip 0/6] locking: Introduce range reader/writer lock Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-20 17:13   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-04-20 17:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-20 18:36       ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2017-04-20 19:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-15  9:19           ` Davidlohr Bueso

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