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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Pekka Paalanen" <ppaalanen@gmail.com>,
	"Ilia Mirkin" <imirkin@alum.mit.edu>,
	"Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexdeucher@gmail.com>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Sean Paul" <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality.
Date: Thu, 11 May 2017 23:23:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170511212311.GA6780@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170421110804.GH30290@intel.com>

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On Fri 2017-04-21 14:08:04, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 11:50:18AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > On Fr, 2017-04-21 at 12:25 +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 09:58:24AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > > > While working on graphics support for virtual machines on ppc64 (which
> > > > exists in both little and big endian variants) I've figured the comments
> > > > for various drm fourcc formats in the header file don't match reality.
> > > > 
> > > > Comments says the RGB formats are little endian, but in practice they
> > > > are native endian.  Look at the drm_mode_legacy_fb_format() helper.  It
> > > > maps -- for example -- bpp/depth 32/24 to DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888, no matter
> > > > whenever the machine is little endian or big endian.  The users of this
> > > > function (fbdev emulation, DRM_IOCTL_MODE_ADDFB) expect the framebuffer
> > > > is native endian, not little endian.  Most userspace also operates on
> > > > native endian only.
> > > 
> > > I'm not a fan of "native". Native to what? "CPU" or "host" is what I'd
> > > call it.
> > 
> > native == whatever the cpu is using.
> > 
> > I personally find "native" more intuitive, but at the end of the day I
> > don't mind much.  If people prefer "host" over "native" I'll change it.
> 
> "native" to me feels more like "native to the GPU" since these things
> really are tied to the GPU not the CPU. That's also why I went with the
> explicit endianness originally so that the driver could properly declare
> what the GPU supports.

You can easily have more than one GPU in the system. Plus these are
used by cameras / frame grabbers, too. So anything else than CPU
endianness is badly defined.

(And I agree with the rest of the thread -- we should really be
explicit; fourcc should specify what format the image data are in, and
it should be possible to write fourcc + raw data into file and
transfer it between machines.)


									Pavel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-11 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-21  7:58 [PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-21  8:06 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-21  9:38   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-21  9:44     ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-21  9:25 ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-21  9:50   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-21 11:05     ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-21 11:08     ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-21 11:40       ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-21 11:49         ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-21 12:02           ` Christian König
2017-04-21 11:41       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-21 11:42       ` Christian König
2017-04-21 13:12         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-21 13:21           ` Christian König
2017-04-21 13:27             ` Christian König
2017-04-21 15:21               ` Harry Wentland
2017-04-21 16:14           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-22 10:05             ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-22 21:59               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-24  6:57               ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-24 13:03                 ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-25  1:12                   ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-25  3:08                     ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-25 10:26                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-26  2:10                       ` Michel Dänzer
2017-05-11 21:23       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-05-12  9:10         ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-21 14:49 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-21 16:59   ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-22  5:07     ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-22  9:50       ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-04-22 13:40         ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-22 13:48           ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-22 19:24             ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-24  6:33               ` Michel Dänzer

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