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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] X86: don't report PAT on CPUs that don't support it
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 09:17:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170518071737.xdpiusewqsuv2v55@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1705161125260.18803@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>


* Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 May 2017, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
> > On 04/18/17 12:07, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > 
> > > However, on AMD K6-3 CPU, the processor initialization code never calls
> > > pat_init() and so __pat_enabled stays 1 and the function pat_enabled()
> > > returns true, even though the K6-3 CPU doesn't support PAT.
> > > 
> > 
> > OK, now I'm wondering: are you actually *using* said K6-3 machine, and
> 
> I use it for playing music, browsing with the links browser and connecting 
> to other machines with ssh. That machine is slow but it is completely 
> quiet.
> 
> It is also good to run my own software on a slow CPU to make sure that 
> there are no obvious inefficiencies.
> 
> > if so, are you actually dependent on write combining on it?  The reason
> 
> Those K6-3 MTRRs improve framebuffer write throughput by 33%.
> 
> > I'm asking is because I would personally like to completely remove the
> > support for using MTRRs to create WC mappings, as it only affects a
> > handful of ancient CPUs: Pentium Pro, Pentium II, K6-*, and possibly
> > some Cyrix/Centaur part.  Earlier CPUs didn't have WC, but could set WB,
> > WT or UC via the page tables without needing the PAT MSR, and newer CPUs
> > have PAT.
> 
> MTRRs are also needed on Pentium 3, Core Solo and Core Duo due to an 
> erratum that makes it not possible to set WC with PAT. See the comment 
> before "clear_cpu_cap(c, X86_FEATURE_PAT)" in early_init_intel().

Ok, I'm inclined to apply your regression fix - hpa do you concur?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-18  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-18 19:07 [PATCH] X86: don't report PAT on CPUs that don't support it Mikulas Patocka
2017-04-18 19:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-04-18 20:47   ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-14 22:07     ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-16 13:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-05-16 15:49   ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-18  7:17     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-05-24 10:21 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86/PAT: Fix Xorg regression on CPUs that don't support PAT tip-bot for Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-28 18:18   ` Bernhard Held
2017-05-28 18:43     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-05-29 22:50       ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-30 17:14         ` Dominik Brodowski
2017-05-30 17:59           ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-05-30 18:47             ` Dominik Brodowski
2017-05-30 19:30             ` Bernhard Held
2017-05-31  9:39             ` Junichi Nomura
2017-06-06 22:49       ` [PATCH v2] X86: don't report PAT on CPUs that don't support it Mikulas Patocka
2017-06-06 22:51         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-06-06 23:21           ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-06-13 15:54             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-06-14 20:24               ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-06-07 19:54         ` Bernhard Held
2017-07-03  5:05         ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-07-04 13:41           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-04 13:48             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-07-04 23:04             ` [PATCH v3] " Mikulas Patocka
2017-07-05  7:03               ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86/mm/pat: Don't " tip-bot for Mikulas Patocka

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