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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/6] mm, page_alloc: fix more premature OOM due to race with cpuset update
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 19:24:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170518172424.GB30148@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1705181154450.27641@east.gentwo.org>

On Thu 18-05-17 11:57:55, Cristopher Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2017, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > > Nope. The OOM in a cpuset gets the process doing the alloc killed. Or what
> > > that changed?
> 
> !!!!!
> 
> > >
> > > At this point you have messed up royally and nothing is going to rescue
> > > you anyways. OOM or not does not matter anymore. The app will fail.
> >
> > Not really. If you can trick the system to _think_ that the intersection
> > between mempolicy and the cpuset is empty then the OOM killer might
> > trigger an innocent task rather than the one which tricked it into that
> > situation.
> 
> See above. OOM Kill in a cpuset does not kill an innocent task but a task
> that does an allocation in that specific context meaning a task in that
> cpuset that also has a memory policty.

No, the oom killer will chose the largest task in the specific NUMA
domain. If you just fail such an allocation then a page fault would get
VM_FAULT_OOM and pagefault_out_of_memory would kill a task regardless of
the cpusets.
 
> Regardless of that the point earlier was that the moving logic can avoid
> creating temporary situations of empty sets of nodes by analysing the
> memory policies etc and only performing moves when doing so is safe.

How are you going to do that in a raceless way? Moreover the whole
discussion is about _failing_ allocations on an empty cpuset and
mempolicy intersection.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-18 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-11 14:06 [RFC 0/6] cpuset/mempolicies related fixes and cleanups Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 1/6] mm, page_alloc: fix more premature OOM due to race with cpuset update Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 17:24   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-11 19:00     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12 21:25       ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-13  6:24         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-14 20:37           ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-26  8:07             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-30 21:33               ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-17  9:20                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 13:56                   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-17 14:05                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 14:48                       ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-17 14:56                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 15:25                           ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-18  9:08                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-18 16:57                               ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-18 17:24                                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-05-18 19:07                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-19  7:37                                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-05-17 15:27                           ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-18 10:03                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-05-18 17:07                           ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-19 11:27                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-13  5:42   ` Anshuman Khandual
2017-04-13  6:06     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-13  6:07       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 2/6] mm, mempolicy: stop adjusting current->il_next in mpol_rebind_nodemask() Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 17:32   ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-11 19:03     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12  8:49       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12 21:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2017-04-12 21:18           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 3/6] mm, page_alloc: pass preferred nid instead of zonelist to allocator Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 4/6] mm, mempolicy: simplify rebinding mempolicies when updating cpusets Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 5/6] mm, cpuset: always use seqlock when changing task's nodemask Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-12  8:10   ` Hillf Danton
2017-04-12  8:18     ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-04-11 14:06 ` [RFC 6/6] mm, mempolicy: don't check cpuset seqlock where it doesn't matter Vlastimil Babka

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