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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: signals: Bug or manpage inconsistency?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 21:18:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170530191847.GA23231@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFygrsUhzQzEOX7YLzxMWE_GbKhJjQZ7nSDXnFFbRAWCJA@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/30, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can't comment, I never tried to understand the rationality behind the current
> > behaviour. But at least the sending path should never drop a blocked SIG_DFL
> > signal, there is no other way to ensure you won't miss a signal during exec.
>
> Note that both SIG_DFL _and_ SIG_IGN are possible after exec,

Yes, if it was already ignored before exec. But ignoring the compatibility the
only important case is when it is SIG_DFL because of flush_signal_handlers().

> SIG_IGN doesn't mean "ignore signal forever". It means "ignore signals
> right now", and I think that our current signal blocking semantics are
> likely the correct ones,

I am not saying it is incorrect, but I agree with Thomas in that this
sigismember(t->blocked) in sig_ignored() doesn't look really nice.

> exactly because it means "when you start
> blocking signals, the kernel will not drop them".

if the process is singe-threaded or the signal is private, or it is blocked
by all threads. Otherwise it will wakeup another thread for no reason, the
signal will be dropped in get_signal().

And again, this doesn't look consistent with do_sigaction(). It even has a
comment which explains that we want to flush the ignored signals, blocked
or not.

Nevermind, I am not trying to argue, and

> So again, I really wouldn't want to change existing semantics unless
> there is a big real reason for it. Our current semantics are not
> wrong.

I certainly agree.

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-30 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-30 13:21 signals: Bug or manpage inconsistency? Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 16:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 17:04   ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-05-30 17:19     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-30 19:18       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2017-05-30 20:54       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-31  0:48         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-31  1:10           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-30 17:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-30 19:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 19:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-30 21:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-31  6:51 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2017-06-01  7:01 ` Eric W. Biederman

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