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From: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 05/26] posix-clocks: Remove interval timer facility and mmap/fasync callbacks
Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 11:00:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170531090021.GA1910@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170530211656.145036286@linutronix.de>

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:15:38PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> The only user of this facility is ptp_clock, which does not implement any of
> those functions.
> 
> Remove them to prevent accidental users. Especially the interval timer
> interfaces are now more or less impossible to implement because the
> necessary infrastructure has been confined to the core code. Aside of that
> it's really complex to make these callbacks implemented according to spec
> as the alarm timer implementation demonstrates. If at all then a nanosleep
> callback might be a reasonable extension. For now keep just what ptp_clock
> needs.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>

Acked-by: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>

For the record, recently someone did try to implement this interface
for the i210 card.  Although there were issues in the implementation,
still I was curious enough to test the performance.

   https://www.mail-archive.com/linuxptp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg01738.html

The result confirmed my expectation that using the normal system clock
sychronized to the PHC using the phc2sys utility yields better
performance than the direct timer_settime() implementation.

The nanosleep() idea might be worthwhile, but only for devices with
directly mapped registers (like in some SoCs) and not for the common
PCIe devices.  In any case, I am happy to see the timer interface
removed, as it is basically useless and gives people false
impressions.

Could you please include this documentation fix, too?

Thanks,
Richard

---8<---
diff --git a/Documentation/ptp/ptp.txt b/Documentation/ptp/ptp.txt
index ae8fef8..11e904e 100644
--- a/Documentation/ptp/ptp.txt
+++ b/Documentation/ptp/ptp.txt
@@ -18,7 +18,6 @@
     - Adjust clock frequency
 
   + Ancillary clock features
-    - One short or periodic alarms, with signal delivery to user program
     - Time stamp external events
     - Period output signals configurable from user space
     - Synchronization of the Linux system time via the PPS subsystem
@@ -48,9 +47,7 @@
    User space programs may control the clock using standardized
    ioctls. A program may query, enable, configure, and disable the
    ancillary clock features. User space can receive time stamped
-   events via blocking read() and poll(). One shot and periodic
-   signals may be configured via the POSIX timer_settime() system
-   call.
+   events via blocking read() and poll().
 
 ** Writing clock drivers
 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-31  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-30 21:15 [patch 00/26] alarmtimers/posixtimers: Bug fixes and spec conformity changes Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 01/26] alarmtimer: Prevent overflow of relative timers Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-04 13:21   ` [tip:timers/urgent] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-04 13:24   ` tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 02/26] alarmtimer: Rate limit periodic intervals Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-04 13:22   ` [tip:timers/urgent] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-04 13:25   ` tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 03/26] alarmtimer: Remove pointless config conditional Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:13   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 04/26] posix-timers: Remove unused export of posix_timer_event() Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:13   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 05/26] posix-clocks: Remove interval timer facility and mmap/fasync callbacks Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-31  9:00   ` Richard Cochran [this message]
2017-06-05  8:14   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 06/26] posix-timers: Avoid gazillions of forward declarations Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:14   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 07/26] posix-timers: Cleanup struct k_itimer Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:15   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 08/26] posix-timers: Move posix-timer internals to core Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-31 15:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-05  8:15   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 09/26] posix-timers: Unify overrun/requeue_pending handling Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:16   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 10/26] posix-timers: Move interval out of the union Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:17   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 11/26] posix-timers: Store k_clock pointer in k_itimer Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:17   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 12/26] posix-timers: Add timer_rearm() callback Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:18   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 13/26] posix-timers: Rename do_schedule_next_timer Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-31 15:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-01 20:50     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-02  7:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-06-05  8:18   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 14/26] posix-timers: Use timer_rearm() callback in posixtimer_rearm() Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:19   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 15/26] posix-timers: Add active flag to k_itimer Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:20   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 16/26] posix-timers: Add forward/remaining callbacks Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:20   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 17/26] posix-timers: Make use of " Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:21   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 18/26] posix-timers: Zero settings value in common code Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:21   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-09 20:12     ` Andrei Vagin
2017-06-12 19:13       ` [tip:timers/core] posix-timers: Zero out oldval itimerspec tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-12 21:06         ` Andrei Vagin
2017-06-12 22:01           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-12 22:14             ` Andrei Vagin
2017-06-12 19:13       ` [tip:timers/core] posix-timers: Handle relative posix-timers correctly tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 19/26] posix-timers: Add cancel/arm callbacks Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:22   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 20/26] posix-timers: Make use of " Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:22   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 21/26] alarmtimer: Implement timer_rearm() callback Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:23   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 22/26] alarmtimer: Implement forward callback Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:24   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 23/26] alarmtimer: Implement remaining callback Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:24   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 24/26] alarmtimer: Implement try_to_cancel callback Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:25   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 25/26] alarmtimer: Implement arm callback Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:25   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-30 21:15 ` [patch 26/26] alarmtimer: Switch over to generic set/get/rearm routine Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-05  8:26   ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner

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