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From: Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	"Tetsuo Handa" <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	keescook@chromium.org, matt@nmatt.com, jason@perfinion.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	"Daniel Micay" <danielmicay@gmail.com>,
	kernel-hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] shebang: restrict python interactive prompt/interpreter
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 15:10:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170614151008.42bc57a2@alans-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1497277644.21594.319.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:27:24 -0400
Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 2017-06-11 at 22:32 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > On Sun, 2017-06-11 at 13:44 +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:  
>  
> > > Using filesystem xattr seems like a good idea for this kind of
> > > exceptions and instead of a hardcoded interpreter path. Something like
> > > "security.tpe.interpreter=1|2" (bitmask for interpreter-only and/or CLI)
> > > and "security.tpe.environment=HOME,LOGNAME" would be quite flexible to
> > > configure a security policy for some binaries. This could also be
> > > protected by IMA/EVM, if needed.  
> > 
> > Checking for the existence of an xattr without caching is relatively
> > slow.  I'm not sure that we would want to go this route.  
>  
> For identifying interpreters, xattrs would be too slow (without
> caching results), but once identified, using xattrs as you suggested,
> for specifying how interpreters can be invoked and limiting
> environment variables, is a good idea.  Perhaps the two xattrs could
> be combined?

It's not just #! you need to cover. If I can run ld.so for my arch format
then ld.so will helpfully let me load any ELF binary I like and run it.

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-14 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-06-11 11:44           ` [PATCH v1] shebang: restrict python interactive prompt/interpreter Mickaël Salaün
2017-06-12  2:32             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-12 14:27               ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-13 20:59                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-06-14 14:10                 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2017-06-14 20:37                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Boris Lukashev
2017-06-13 20:59               ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-06-13 21:44                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Casey Schaufler

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