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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Masami Ichikawa <masami256@gmail.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, lkp@01.org,
	xiaolong.ye@intel.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] Introduce v3 namespaced file capabilities
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 22:05:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170615030543.GA8979@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce471b11-e76a-25f3-eae8-eca30e7233af@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 08:27:40AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 06/13/2017 07:55 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >Quoting Stefan Berger (stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com):
> >>  If all extended
> >>attributes were to support this model, maybe the 'uid' could be
> >>associated with the 'name' of the xattr rather than its 'value' (not
> >>sure whether that's possible).
> >Right, I missed that in your original email when I saw it this morning.
> >It's not what my patch does, but it's an interesting idea.  Do you have
> >a patch to that effect?  We might even be able to generalize that to
> 
> No, I don't have a patch. It may not be possible to implement it.
> The xattr_handler's  take the name of the xattr as input to get().

That may be ok though.  Assume the host created a container with
100000 as the uid for root, which created a container with 130000 as
uid for root.  If root in the nested container tries to read the
xattr, the kernel can check for security.foo[130000] first, then
security.foo[100000], then security.foo.  Or, it can do a listxattr
and look for those.  Am I overlooking one?

> So one could try to encode the mapped uid in the name. However, that

I thought that's exactly what you were suggesting in your original
email?  "security.capability[uid=2000]"

> could lead to problems with stale xattrs in a shared filesystem over
> time unless one could limit the number of xattrs with the same
> prefix, e.g., security.capability*. So I doubt that it would work.

Hm.  Yeah.  But really how many setups are there like that?  I.e. if
you launch a regular docker or lxd container, the image doesn't do a
bind mount of a shared image, it layers something above it or does a
copy.  What setups do you know of where multiple containers in different
user namespaces mount the same filesystem shared and writeable?

> Otherwise it would be good if the value was wrapped in a data
> structure use by all xattrs, but that doesn't seem to be the case,
> either. So I guess we have to go into each type of value structure
> and add a uid field there.
> 
> >namespace any security.* xattrs.  Wouldn't be automatically enabled
> >for anything but ima and capabilities, but we could make the infrastructure
> >generic and re-usable.
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-15  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-07  9:21 64fa03de33: BUG:Dentry_still_in_use kernel test robot
2017-05-08  4:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-08 11:47   ` Masami Ichikawa
2017-05-08 15:49     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-08 18:11     ` [PATCH v4] Introduce v3 namespaced file capabilities Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-09 16:55       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-09 20:37         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-05-09 22:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-13 15:47       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 17:14         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 17:42           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 20:51             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 17:45           ` James Bottomley
2017-06-13 20:46             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 20:49               ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 20:53                 ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 20:58                   ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 20:59                   ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-13 21:09                     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-06-13 17:18         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-13 18:12           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-13 23:55             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-14 12:27               ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-15  3:05                 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2017-06-16  9:02                   ` Christian Brauner
2017-06-16 22:24                   ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-17 20:56                   ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-18 22:14                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-19  1:13                       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-19 13:05                         ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-20  6:23                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-19 21:34                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-20  5:42                         ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-20 12:19                           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-20 17:33                             ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-20 19:56                               ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-20 19:57                           ` Vivek Goyal
2017-06-13 23:42         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-13 23:50           ` Serge E. Hallyn

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