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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/51] rtc: stop using rtc deprecated functions
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 20:08:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170621180847.GA24175@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621123535.b5fvwlydfhnhuqll@piout.net>

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Hi!

> > > Or not, having an RTC set in the past is actually quite common. I'd find
> > > it weird to have a new device boot and be set to a date in the future.
> > 
> > ...but still better than board stuck in the past, no?
> > 
> > > Also note that the threshold or offset thing may seem like a good idea
> > > but fails with many RTCs because of how they handle leap years.
> > 
> > Well, you can still convert time from rtc to unix time, then do adjustment
> > there.
> > 
> 
> You can only if your machine is running when that happens. If that is
> not the case, then you lost and your time is not correct anymore.

I don't see why that should be a case... as long as you know what RTC
does in event of overflow, and it is not something completely crazy.

> > Anyway, I guess it would be cool for rtc drivers to annotate what limits
> > underlying storage has to the common code, so that we can do fixups once
> > per class, not once per driver.
> 
> Yes, I'm in the middle of the whole rework that allows that.
> 
> I don't understand the sudden urgency of fixing that and the amount of
> bikeshedding, seeing that the closest cutoff date is actually 31st of
> december 2069 in the rtc subsystem and that anyway the current 32bit
> userspace will explode in february 2038.
> 
> My plan from the beginning was to have something for the next stable. I
> know nobody can read my mind but again, I don't think there is currently
> any urgency to change anything.

Yes, mind reading is a problem. I can only read minds of ferungulates,
and only if they are physicaly near me :-).

Best regards,
									Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-21 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20 21:35 [PATCH 00/51] rtc: stop using rtc deprecated functions Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 22:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-20 22:38   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-21  7:51   ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21  8:39     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-21  6:34       ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21 12:35         ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-21 18:08           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-06-21  9:19       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-21  9:41         ` Alexandre Belloni
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-06-20  9:35 Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20 10:03 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 10:07   ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 12:10   ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 12:24     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 13:26       ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 13:37         ` Steve Twiss
2017-06-20 13:44           ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 13:48             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 15:07               ` Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20 21:15                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-21  9:26                   ` David Laight
2017-06-21  9:35                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-20 22:08                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21  9:14                   ` Benjamin Gaignard

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