From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
Helge Diller <deller@gmx.de>,
James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
"security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
Qualys Security Advisory <qsa@qualys.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: larger stack guard gap, between vmas
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 07:23:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170706052321.GA25439@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVhvvhwdqER25_dKbGXX35UYvwfQrxz9VfofbKCqTQLRQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 05:19:47PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> I think it's ridiculous that you can change rlimits and then
> exec a setuid thing. It's not so easy to fix, though. Maybe track,
> per-task, inherited by clone and exec, what the rlimits were the last
> time the process had privilege and reset to those limits when running
> something setuid. But a better approach might be to have some sysctls
> that say what the rlimits become when doing setuid.
*Some* rlimits are useful and needed for the user as you mentionned.
RLIMIT_CORE definitely is one of them, especially for debugging, when
combined with suid_dumpable. Some others like RLIMIT_STACK should
probably never be configurable at all and cause trouble. Probably
that simply having a sysctl to set this one for setuid programs and
ignore the current limit would be enough. We could even imagine another
one to set the stack guard gap for setuid programs (this would also
limit the impacts of having a large gap for everyone).
> We need per-user-ns sysctls for stuff like this, and we don't really
> have them...
I don't think we need to be this fine-grained. min_mmap_addr is global,
is used to address very similar issues and nobody seems to complain.
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-06 5:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2017-06-22 12:30 ` [PATCH] mm: larger stack guard gap, between vmas Ben Hutchings
2017-06-22 12:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-06-22 12:58 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-06-22 13:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-06-22 13:28 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-06-22 13:15 ` [vs-plain] " Levente Polyak
2017-06-22 13:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-06-22 14:14 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-06-22 14:34 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-06-23 3:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-06-23 4:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-22 21:23 ` Helge Deller
2017-06-23 4:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2017-06-24 9:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2017-06-24 18:29 ` Ben Hutchings
[not found] ` <CA+55aFx6j4na3BVRC2aQuf-kNp1jzGahN8To_SFpNu+H=gopJA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20170619142358.GA32654@1wt.eu>
[not found] ` <1498009101.2655.6.camel@decadent.org.uk>
[not found] ` <20170621092419.GA22051@dhcp22.suse.cz>
[not found] ` <1498042057.2655.8.camel@decadent.org.uk>
2017-07-03 23:55 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-04 0:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-04 8:41 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 9:35 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 9:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-04 10:42 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 11:36 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-04 12:00 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 12:11 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 12:21 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-04 12:33 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 14:19 ` Ximin Luo
2017-07-04 14:48 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 15:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-04 17:22 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-04 18:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-04 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-04 19:03 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-04 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-04 16:27 ` John Haxby
2017-07-04 17:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-05 12:26 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-04 17:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-05 12:25 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-04 23:01 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-04 23:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-05 6:36 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-05 8:14 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-05 8:24 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-05 9:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-05 12:21 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-05 13:52 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-05 14:19 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-05 16:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-06 7:34 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-05 12:19 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-05 14:23 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-05 15:25 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-05 15:59 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-05 16:58 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-05 17:05 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-05 17:24 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-05 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-05 23:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-05 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-06 8:24 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-06 10:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-10 2:40 ` [lkp-robot] [mm] a99d848d3b: kernel_BUG_at_mm/mmap.c kernel test robot
2017-07-05 16:15 ` [PATCH] mm: larger stack guard gap, between vmas Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-05 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-05 17:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-05 19:32 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-05 20:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-05 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-05 23:50 ` Ben Hutchings
2017-07-06 0:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-05 23:50 ` Kees Cook
2017-07-05 23:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-06 0:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-06 0:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-06 0:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-06 2:45 ` Kees Cook
2017-07-06 5:23 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2017-07-06 5:33 ` Kevin Easton
2017-07-05 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-05 18:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-05 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-05 19:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2017-07-05 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-05 1:16 ` [vs-plain] " kseifried
2017-07-05 14:11 ` Solar Designer
2017-07-04 10:46 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 10:51 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-04 0:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-04 12:26 ` [vs-plain] " John Haxby
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