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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org,
	Yinghai Lu" <yinghai@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/boot/KASLR: Skip relocation handling in no kaslr case
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 21:54:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170706135413.GL19994@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170706132827.GJ19994@x1>

On 07/06/17 at 09:28pm, Baoquan He wrote:
> > > Do you mean the handling in boot/compressed/head_64.S? Whatever it does,
> > > it's only for physical address. The virtual address mapping is not
> > > touched. Here virt_addr respresents the offset between
> > > 0xffffffff80000000, 0xffffffffc0000000. And if skip the relocation
> > > handling, we can see that the '_text' will be mapped to
> > > 0xffffffff81000000 forever, no matter where physical address of '_text'
> > > is. So here LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR is default value of 'virt_addr'.
> > 
> > So, this isn't always true. The output address is the address assigned
> > by head_*.S for the extraction destination. We can't just change that,
> > since it's based on where to perform the extraction, etc. All the
> > logic in there is designed to make sure we're actually >=
> > LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR:
> > 
> >         cmpl    $LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR, %ebx
> >         jge     1f
> > #endif
> >         movl    $LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR, %ebx
> > 1:
> 
> Yes, here it's trying to do an adjustment. To align the original loading
> address if it's not aligned to CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN, and to make it be
> LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR if it's smaller than LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR. Other than
> those, nothing else be done. So let me conclude the possible original
> 'output' value:
> 1) default case
>   It's LOAD_PHYSICAL_ADDR Which is the default loading address.
> 2) kexec/kdump
>   The output will be at the top of the available physical ram.
> 3) Modified bootloader
>   Which could put kernel anywhere by modifying code of bootloader. This
>   is the case that we need do above alignment and adjustment to avoid
>   unpleasant kernel error.
> 
> Except of above 3 cases, physical address of kernel could be changed by
> physical address randomization.
> 4) physical address randomization
> 
> However, for virtual address, there are only two chances to decide:
> 1) arch/x86/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S
>   we just map .text at __START_KERNEL
> #define __PHYSICAL_START        ALIGN(CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START, \                                                                                   
>                                       CONFIG_PHYSICAL_ALIGN)
> 
> #define __START_KERNEL          (__START_KERNEL_map + __PHYSICAL_START)
> 2) handle_relocations :: boot/compressed/misc.c
> In handle_relocations(), we DO pass in the physical 'output', but that
> is used to calculate 'map' which is used to position those memory
> unit where the referenced address need be relocated. 
>   
> So later, in arch/x86/kernel/head_64.S, we will store the delta which is
> between 16M and the actual kernel loading address into phys_base. So as

Here I was wrong about phys_base. It has been changed in the latest code
in Linus's tree. Please check arch/x86/kernel/head64.c: 

void __head __startup_64(unsigned long physaddr)                                                                                                 
{
	...
	load_delta = physaddr - (unsigned long)(_text - __START_KERNEL_map);
	...

	/* Fixup phys_base */
        p = fixup_pointer(&phys_base, physaddr);
        *p += load_delta;
}
Here physaddr should be 'output' which is the place kernel decompressed
at.


> long as we can translate physical address and virtual address of kernel
> by below formula, everything is going very well. 
> 
>     y = x - __START_KERNEL_map + phys_base.
>    
> We really don't need to tie physical address and virtual address of
> kernel together in any cases. They can be randomized or not randomized
> completely separately. As long as we keep above translation formula
> working well, everything need not be worried.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-06 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1498314309-18502-1-git-send-email-bhe@redhat.com>
2017-06-26  9:47 ` [PATCH] x86/boot/KASLR: Skip relocation handling in no kaslr case Ingo Molnar
2017-06-26 10:43   ` Baoquan He
2017-06-27  8:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-06-27  8:55       ` Baoquan He
2017-06-27 22:42 ` Kees Cook
2017-06-27 23:24   ` Baoquan He
2017-06-27 23:33     ` Baoquan He
2017-07-05 19:06     ` Kees Cook
2017-07-06 13:28       ` Baoquan He
2017-07-06 13:54         ` Baoquan He [this message]
2017-06-24 14:16 Baoquan He
2017-06-24 14:23 ` Baoquan He

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