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From: Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Okash Khawaja <okash.khawaja@gmail.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>,
	Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs@gmail.com>,
	Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com>,
	Kirk Reiser <kirk@reisers.ca>,
	speakup@linux-speakup.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] Re: tty contention resulting from tty_open_by_device export
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:20:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170712192028.70bc0d54@alans-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170710123307.GA777@sanghar>


> When opening from kernel, we don't use file pointer. The count mismatch
> is between tty->count and #fd's. So opening from kernel leads to #fd's
> being less than tty->count. I thought this difference is relevant to
> user-space opening of tty, and not to kernel opening of tty. Can you
> suggest how to address this mismatch?

Your kernel reference is the same as having a file open reference so I
think this actually needs addressing in the maths. In other words count
the number of kernel references and also add that into the test for
check_tty_count (kernel references + #fds == count).

I'd really like to keep this right because that check has a long history
of catching really nasty race conditions in the tty code. The
open/close/hangup code is really fragile so worth the debugability.

> Ah may be I didn't notice the active bit. Is it one of the #defines in
> tty.h? Can usage count and active bit be used to differentiate between
> whether the tty was opened by kernel or user?

It only tells you whether the port is currently active for some purpose,
not which. If you still want to implement exclusivity between kernel and
user then it needs another flag, but I think that flag should be in
port->flags as it is a property of the physical interface.

(Take a look at tty_port_open for example)

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-12 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-07 20:28 tty contention resulting from tty_open_by_device export Okash Khawaja
2017-07-08  8:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-07-08  9:01   ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-09 11:41   ` [patch 0/3] " Okash Khawaja
2017-07-09 11:41     ` [patch 1/3] tty: resolve tty contention between kernel and user space Okash Khawaja
2017-07-09 11:51       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-07-09 15:04       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-07-09 19:08         ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-10  8:31         ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-10 15:21           ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-07-10 16:12             ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-09 11:41     ` [patch 2/3] staging: speakup: use tty_kopen instead of tty_open_by_driver Okash Khawaja
2017-07-09 11:50       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-07-09 12:28         ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-09 11:41     ` [patch 3/3] tty: undo export " Okash Khawaja
2017-07-09 11:57     ` [patch 0/3] Re: tty contention resulting from tty_open_by_device export Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-07-09 12:32     ` [patch 4/3] tty: make tty_kopen return ENODEV in case of no TTY Okash Khawaja
2017-07-10 11:52     ` [patch 0/3] Re: tty contention resulting from tty_open_by_device export Alan Cox
2017-07-10 12:33       ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-10 16:22         ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-12 18:20         ` Alan Cox [this message]
2017-07-13 11:29           ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-17 12:31             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-07-17 13:23               ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-17 22:04                 ` Alan Cox
2017-07-18 11:29                   ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-18 12:26                     ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-18 19:22                       ` Okash Khawaja
2017-07-18 13:49                     ` Alan Cox
2017-07-20  7:22                       ` [patch v3 0/3] tty contention resulting from tty_open_by_driver export Okash Khawaja
2017-07-20  7:22                         ` [patch v3 1/3] tty: resolve tty contention between kernel and user space Okash Khawaja
2017-07-20  7:22                         ` [patch v3 2/3] staging: speakup: use tty_kopen and tty_kclose Okash Khawaja
2017-07-20  7:22                         ` [patch v3 3/3] tty: undo export of tty_open_by_driver Okash Khawaja
2017-07-17 21:04               ` [patch v2 0/3] tty contention resulting from tty_open_by_driver export Okash Khawaja
2017-07-17 21:04                 ` [patch v2 1/3] tty: resolve tty contention between kernel and user space Okash Khawaja
2017-07-17 21:04                 ` [patch v2 2/3] staging: speakup: use tty_kopen instead of tty_open_by_driver Okash Khawaja
2017-07-17 21:04                 ` [patch v2 3/3] tty: undo export " Okash Khawaja

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