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From: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>
To: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] livepatch: introduce shadow variable API
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:21:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170718202107.3hsptpdspr26snxc@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1707171709370.22628@pobox.suse.cz>

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 05:29:41PM +0200, Miroslav Benes wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2017, Joe Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > +Brief API summary
> > +-----------------
> > + [ ... snip ...]
> > +* klp_shadow_detach() - detach and free all <*, num> shadow variables
> > +  - find and remove any <*, num> references from hashtable
> > +    - if found, release shadow variable
> 
> I think that the second one should be klp_shadow_detach_all(), shouldn't 
> it?

Good catch, I'll fixup in v3.

> > +static DEFINE_HASHTABLE(klp_shadow_hash, 12);
> 
> Is there a reason, why you pick 12? I'm just curious.

The hashtable bit-size was inherited from the kpatch implementation.
Perhaps Josh knows why this value was picked?

Aside: we could have per-livepatch hashtables if that was desired, this
value could be then adjusted accordingly.  We haven't needed them for
kpatch, so I didn't see good reason to complicate things.

> > +static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(klp_shadow_lock);
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * struct klp_shadow - shadow variable structure
> > + * @node:	klp_shadow_hash hash table node
> > + * @rcu_head:	RCU is used to safely free this structure
> > + * @obj:	pointer to original data
> > + * @num:	numerical description of new data
> 
> Josh proposed better description. Could we also have a note somewhere in 
> the documentation what this member is practically for? I mean versioning 
> and ability to attach new members to a data structure if live patches are 
> stacked.

That's a good idea and I posted a sample doc-blurb in my other reply to
Petr about terminology.

> > + * @new_data:	new data area
> > + */
> > +struct klp_shadow {
> > +	struct hlist_node node;
> > +	struct rcu_head rcu_head;
> > +	void *obj;
> > +	unsigned long num;
> > +	char new_data[];
> > +};
> 
> What is the reason to change 'void *new_data' to 'char new_data[]'? I 
> assume it is related to API changes below...
> 
> [...]
> 
> > +/**
> > + * _klp_shadow_attach() - allocate and add a new shadow variable
> > + * @obj:	pointer to original data
> > + * @num:	numerical description of new data
> > + * @new_data:	pointer to new data
> > + * @new_size:	size of new data
> > + * @gfp_flags:	GFP mask for allocation
> > + * @lock:	take klp_shadow_lock during klp_shadow_hash operations
> 
> I am not sure about lock argument. Do we need it? Common practice is to 
> have function foo() which takes a lock, and function __foo() which does 
> not.
> 
> In klp_shadow_get_or_attach(), you use it as I'd expect. You take the 
> spinlock, call this function and release the spinlock. Is it possible 
> to do the same in klp_shadow_attach() and have __klp_shadow_attach() 
> without lock argument?

Yes, this would be possible, though it would restrict
klp_shadow_attach() from accepting gfp_flags that might allow for
sleeping.  More on that below ...
 
> > + *
> > + * Note: allocates @new_size space for shadow variable data and copies
> > + * @new_size bytes from @new_data into the shadow varaible's own @new_data
> > + * space.  If @new_data is NULL, @new_size is still allocated, but no
> > + * copy is performed.
> 
> I must say I'm not entirely happy with this. I don't know if this is what 
> Petr had in mind (I'm sure he'll get to the patch set soon). Calling 
> memcpy instead of a simple assignment in v1 seems worse. 

This change was a bit of a experiment on my part in reaction to
adding klp_shadow_get_or_attach().

I like the simplicity of v1's pointer assignment -- in fact, moving all
allocation responsiblity (klp_shadow meta-data and data[] area) out to
the caller is doable, though implementing klp_shadow_get_or_attach() and
and klp_shadow_detach_all() complicates matters, for example, adding an
alloc/release callback.  I originally attempted this for v2, but turned
back when the API and implementation grew complicated.  If the memcpy
and gfp_flag restrictions are too ugly, I can try revisting that
approach.  Ideas welcome :)

Regards,

-- Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-18 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-28 15:37 [PATCH v2 0/2] livepatch: add shadow variable API Joe Lawrence
2017-06-28 15:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] livepatch: introduce " Joe Lawrence
2017-06-30 13:49   ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-07 18:05     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-14  0:41   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-17 15:35     ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-18 13:00       ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-18 19:36         ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-19 15:19           ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 18:50             ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-17 15:29   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-18 20:21     ` Joe Lawrence [this message]
2017-07-19  2:28       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 19:01       ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-20 14:45         ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-20 15:48           ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-20 20:23             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-21  8:42             ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-21  8:59             ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-18 12:45   ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-20 20:30     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-21  9:12       ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-21  9:27         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-21  9:13       ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-21 13:55         ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-24 15:04           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-06-28 15:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] livepatch: add shadow variable sample programs Joe Lawrence
2017-07-18 14:47   ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-18 19:15     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-19 14:44       ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 15:06   ` Petr Mladek

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