From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
oleg@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/15] rcu: Use timer as backstop for NOCB deferred wakeups
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:18:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170725191814.GU3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170725141220.4d2d968e@vmware.local.home>
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 02:12:20PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:44:31 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > The handling of RCU's no-CBs CPUs has a maintenance headache, namely
> > that if call_rcu() is invoked with interrupts disabled, the rcuo kthread
> > wakeup must be defered to a point where we can be sure that scheduler
> > locks are not held. Of course, there are a lot of code paths leading
> > from an interrupts-disabled invocation of call_rcu(), and missing any
> > one of these can result in excessive callback-invocation latency, and
> > potentially even system hangs.
>
> What about using irq_work? That's what perf and ftrace use for such a
> case.
I hadn't looked at irq_work before, thank you for the pointer!
I nevertheless believe that timers work better in this particular case
because they can be cancelled (which appears to be the common case), they
normally are not at all time-critical, and because running in softirq
is just fine -- no need to run out of the scheduling-clock interrupt.
Seem reasonable?
Thanx, Paul
> -- Steve
>
> >
> > This commit therefore uses a timer to guarantee that the wakeup will
> > eventually occur. If one of the deferred-wakeup points kicks in, then
> > the timer is simply cancelled.
> >
> > This commit also fixes up an incomplete removal of commits that were
> > intended to plug remaining exit paths, which should have the added
> > benefit of reducing the overhead of RCU's context-switch hooks. In
> > addition, it simplifies leader-to-follower callback-list handoff by
> > introducing locking. The call_rcu()-to-leader handoff continues to
> > use atomic operations in order to maintain good real-time latency for
> > common-case use of call_rcu().
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-25 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-24 21:44 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/15] General fixes Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/15] sched,rcu: Make cond_resched() provide RCU quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-15 16:19 ` [PATCH v5 " Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-17 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-17 12:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/15] rcu: Use timer as backstop for NOCB deferred wakeups Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 18:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-25 19:18 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-07-25 22:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-26 0:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 21:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-26 21:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 23:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-27 17:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/15] rcu: Drive TASKS_RCU directly off of PREEMPT Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 18:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-25 19:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/15] rcu: Create reasonable API for do_exit() TASKS_RCU processing Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/15] rcu: Add TPS() to event-traced strings Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 1:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/15] rcu: Move rcu.h to new trivial-function style Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/15] rcu: Add event tracing to ->gp_tasks update at GP start Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 1:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-28 3:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 12:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-28 17:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/15] swait: add idle variants which don't contribute to load average Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/15] rcu: use idle versions of swait to make idle-hack clear Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/15] rcu: Add TPS() protection for _rcu_barrier_trace strings Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 1:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/15] rcu/tracing: Set disable_rcu_irq_enter on rcu_eqs_exit() Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/15] rcu: Add assertions verifying blocked-tasks list Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/15] rcu: Make rcu_idle_enter() rely on callers disabling irqs Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/15] rcu: Add warning to rcu_idle_enter() for irqs enabled Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:44 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/15] rcu: Remove exports from rcu_idle_exit() and rcu_idle_enter() Paul E. McKenney
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