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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 4/5] sys_membarrier: Add expedited option
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 05:56:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170727125659.GO3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170727101426.gvbympkitoqyvfxj@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 12:14:26PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:36:12PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > This horse is already out, so trying to shut the gate won't be effective.
> 
> So I'm not convinced it is. The mprotect() hack isn't portable as we've
> established and on x86 where it does work, it doesn't (much) perturb
> tasks not related to our process because we keep a tight mm_cpumask().

Wrong.  People are using it today, portable or not.  If we want them
to stop using it, we need to give them an alternative.  Period.

> And if there are other (unpriv.) means of spraying IPIs around, we
> should most certainly look at fixing those, not just shrug and make
> matters worse.

We need to keep an open mind for a bit.  If there was a trivial
solution, we would have implemented it back in 2010.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-27 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-24 21:57 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/5] Related non-RCU updates Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:58 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/5] module: Fix pr_fmt() bug for header use of printk Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:58 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 2/5] init_task: Remove redundant INIT_TASK_RCU_TREE_PREEMPT() macro Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:58 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 3/5] EXPERIMENTAL sched: Allow migrating kthreads into online but inactive CPUs Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:58 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 4/5] sys_membarrier: Add expedited option Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25  4:27   ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-25 16:24     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 13:21   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-07-25 16:48     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 16:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-25 16:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 16:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-25 17:17         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 18:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-25 19:36             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 20:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-25 21:19                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 21:55                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-25 22:39                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-07-25 22:50                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-07-26  0:01                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  7:46                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-26 15:42                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 18:01                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-07-26 18:30                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 20:37                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-07-26 21:11                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27  1:45                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 12:39                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-07-27 14:44                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 10:24                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 14:52                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27  8:53                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 10:09                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 10:22                               ` Will Deacon
2017-07-27 13:14                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 23:59                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  7:41                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-26 15:41                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27  8:30                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 13:08                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 13:49                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 14:32                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 14:36                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 14:46                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 13:55                               ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-27 14:16                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 14:29                                   ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-27 14:36                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 14:41                                       ` Will Deacon
2017-07-27 14:47                                       ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-27 14:55                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 13:56                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 15:19                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-26  9:36                   ` Will Deacon
2017-07-26 15:46                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 10:14               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 12:56                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-07-27 13:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-27 14:33                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 21:58 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 5/5] EXP: sched/cputime: Fix using smp_processor_id() in preemptible Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-24 22:01   ` Wanpeng Li
2017-07-24 22:29     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 22:51 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/5] Related non-RCU updates Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 1/4] module: Fix pr_fmt() bug for header use of printk Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 2/4] init_task: Remove redundant INIT_TASK_RCU_TREE_PREEMPT() macro Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 3/4] sched: Allow migrating kthreads into online but inactive CPUs Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 22:53   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 4/4] membarrier: Expedited private command Paul E. McKenney

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