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From: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "karam . lee" <karam.lee@lge.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
	seungho1.park@lge.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] remove rw_page() from brd, pmem and btt
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 16:13:59 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170802221359.GA20666@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170728173143.GE15980@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:31:43AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:56:01AM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> > Dan Williams and Christoph Hellwig have recently expressed doubt about
> > whether the rw_page() interface made sense for synchronous memory drivers
> > [1][2].  It's unclear whether this interface has any performance benefit
> > for these drivers, but as we continue to fix bugs it is clear that it does
> > have a maintenance burden.  This series removes the rw_page()
> > implementations in brd, pmem and btt to relieve this burden.
> 
> Why don't you measure whether it has performance benefits?  I don't
> understand why zram would see performance benefits and not other drivers.
> If it's going to be removed, then the whole interface should be removed,
> not just have the implementations removed from some drivers.

Okay, I've run a bunch of performance tests with the PMEM and with BTT entry
points for rw_pages() in a swap workload, and in all cases I do see an
improvement over the code when rw_pages() is removed.  Here are the results
from my random lab box:

  Average latency of swap_writepage()
+------+------------+---------+-------------+
|      | no rw_page | rw_page | Improvement |
+-------------------------------------------+
| PMEM |  5.0 us    |  4.7 us |     6%      |
+-------------------------------------------+
|  BTT |  6.8 us    |  6.1 us |    10%      |
+------+------------+---------+-------------+

  Average latency of swap_readpage()
+------+------------+---------+-------------+
|      | no rw_page | rw_page | Improvement |
+-------------------------------------------+
| PMEM |  3.3 us    |  2.9 us |    12%      |
+-------------------------------------------+
|  BTT |  3.7 us    |  3.4 us |     8%      |
+------+------------+---------+-------------+

The workload was pmbench, a memory benchmark, run on a system where I had
severely restricted the amount of memory in the system with the 'mem' kernel
command line parameter.  The benchmark was set up to test more memory than I
allowed the OS to have so it spilled over into swap.

The PMEM or BTT device was set up as my swap device, and during the test I got
a few hundred thousand samples of each of swap_writepage() and
swap_writepage().  The PMEM/BTT device was just memory reserved with the
memmap kernel command line parameter.

Thanks, Matthew, for asking for performance data.  It looks like removing this
code would have been a mistake.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-02 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-28 16:56 [PATCH 0/3] remove rw_page() from brd, pmem and btt Ross Zwisler
2017-07-28 16:56 ` [PATCH 1/3] btt: remove btt_rw_page() Ross Zwisler
2017-08-03 16:15   ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-28 16:56 ` [PATCH 2/3] pmem: remove pmem_rw_page() Ross Zwisler
2017-07-28 16:56 ` [PATCH 3/3] brd: remove brd_rw_page() Ross Zwisler
2017-07-28 17:31 ` [PATCH 0/3] remove rw_page() from brd, pmem and btt Matthew Wilcox
2017-07-28 21:21   ` Andrew Morton
2017-07-30 22:16     ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-30 22:38       ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-31  7:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-31  7:36         ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-31  7:42           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-07-31  7:44             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-01  6:23               ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-02 22:13   ` Ross Zwisler [this message]
2017-08-03  0:13     ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-03  0:34       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-03  8:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-04  0:57         ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-03 21:13       ` Ross Zwisler
2017-08-03 21:17         ` Jens Axboe
2017-08-04  3:54         ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-04  8:17           ` Minchan Kim
2017-08-04 18:01             ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 18:21               ` Ross Zwisler
2017-08-04 18:24                 ` Dan Williams
2017-08-07  8:23                   ` Minchan Kim

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