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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pratyush Anand <panand@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: RCU stall when using function_graph
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 05:44:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170803124421.GP3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11d179df-d8a9-5d3e-3bc4-080df464e85d@linaro.org>

On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 01:41:11PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 02/08/2017 15:07, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 14:42:39 +0200
> > Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 08:12:14PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 00:15:44 +0200
> >>> Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>> On 02/08/2017 00:04, Paul E. McKenney wrote:  
> >>>>>> Hi Paul,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have been trying to set the function_graph tracer for ftrace and each time I
> >>>>>> get a CPU stall.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How to reproduce:
> >>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 		 echo function_graph > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/current_tracer
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This error appears with v4.13-rc3 and v4.12-rc6.  
> >>>
> >>> Can you bisect this? It may be due to this commit:
> >>>
> >>> 0598e4f08 ("ftrace: Add use of synchronize_rcu_tasks() with dynamic trampolines")  
> >>
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
> >> I git bisected but each time the issue occured. I went through the different
> >> version down to v4.4 where the board was not fully supported and it ended up to
> >> have the same issue.
> >>
> >> Finally, I had the intuition it could be related to the wall time (there is no
> >> RTC clock with battery on the board and the wall time is Jan 1st, 1970).
> >>
> >> Setting up the with ntpdate solved the problem.
> 
> Actually, it did not solve the problem. The function_graph trace is set,
> I can use the system but after awhile (no tracing enabled at anytime),
> the stall appears.
> 
> >> Even if it is rarely the case to have the time not set, is it normal to have a
> >> RCU cpu stall ?
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > BTW, function_graph tracer is the most invasive of the tracers. It's 4x
> > slower than function tracer. I'm wondering if the tracer isn't the
> > cause, but just slows things down enough to cause a some other race
> > condition that triggers the bug.
> 
> Yes, that could be true.
> 
> I tried the following scenario:
> 
>  - cpufreq governor => userspace + max_freq (1.2GHz)
>    - function_graph set ==> OK
> 
>  - cpufreq governor => userspace + min_freq (200MHz)
>    - function_graph set ==> RCU stall
> 
> Beside that, I realize the board is constantly processing SOF interrupts
> every 124us, so that adds more overhead.
> 
> Removing the USB support, thus the associated processing for the SOF
> interrupts, I don't see anymore the RCU stall.

Looks like Steve called this one!  ;-)

> Is it the expected behavior to have the system hang after a RCU stall
> raises ?

No, but if NMI stack traces are enabled and there are any NMI problems,
bad things can happen.  In addition, the bulk of output can cause problems
if you have a slow console connection.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-03 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-01 22:04 RCU stall when using function_graph Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 22:15 ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-02  0:12   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-02 12:42     ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-02 13:07       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-03  2:40         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-03 11:41         ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-03 12:44           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-08-03 14:38             ` Daniel Lezcano
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     [not found]                   ` <CAOoBcBU00VRXmrNNEOjJHgXf9BimxKYOorJC0d3766mNdda=Bg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-08-06 17:02                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-09  9:13                       ` Pratyush Anand
2017-08-09 12:58                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-09 13:28                           ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-09 14:40                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-09 15:51                               ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-09 17:22                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-10  9:45                                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-10 21:39                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-11  9:38                                       ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-15 13:29                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-16  8:42                                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-08-16 14:04                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-16 16:32                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 16:41                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-16 17:58                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-30 22:07                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 16:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 12:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
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2017-08-01 21:07 Daniel Lezcano

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