From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Pan Xinhui <xinhui@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v5] locking/pvqspinlock: Relax cmpxchg's to improve performance on some archs
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 19:40:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170815184034.GD10801@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170814184711.GL6524@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:47:11PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 01:01:22PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > Yeah, that's right, you can't use the STXR status flag to create control
> > dependencies.
>
> Just for my elucidation; you can't use it to create a control dependency
> on the store, but you can use it to create a control dependency on the
> corresponding load, right?
Hmm, sort of, but I'd say that the reads are really ordered due to
read-after-read ordering in that case. Control dependencies to loads
don't give you order.
> Now, IIRC, we've defined control dependencies as being LOAD->STORE
> ordering, so in that respect nothing is lost. But maybe we should
> explicitly mention that if the LOAD is part of an (otherwise) atomic RmW
> the STORE is not constrained.
I could well be misreading your suggestion, but it feels like that's too
weak. You can definitely still have control dependencies off the LL part
of the LL/SC pair, just not off the SC part.
E.g. this version of LB is forbidden on arm64:
P0:
if (atomic_inc_return_relaxed(&x) == 2)
atomic_set(&y, 1);
P1:
if (atomic_inc_return_relaxed(&y) == 2)
atomic_set(&x, 1);
Perhaps when you say "the STORE", you mean the store in the atomic RmW,
rather than the store in the LOAD->STORE control dependency?
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-15 18:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-24 13:38 [RESEND PATCH v5] locking/pvqspinlock: Relax cmpxchg's to improve performance on some archs Waiman Long
2017-08-09 13:39 ` Waiman Long
2017-08-09 15:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-09 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 8:12 ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-10 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 20:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-10 11:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 13:27 ` Waiman Long
2017-08-10 13:58 ` Waiman Long
2017-08-10 16:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 16:22 ` Waiman Long
2017-08-10 18:18 ` Waiman Long
2017-08-11 9:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-14 12:01 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-14 15:01 ` Waiman Long
2017-08-14 16:02 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-14 18:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-15 18:40 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2017-08-21 10:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 18:00 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-21 19:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21 19:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-22 15:35 ` Waiman Long
2017-08-22 10:40 ` Will Deacon
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