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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <Suravee.Suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:54:07 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170817085407.3de4e755@w520.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817144308.GI16908@8bytes.org>

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:43:08 +0200
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 08:35:20AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > Wouldn't it be much more friendly to downstreams and out-of-tree
> > drivers to introduce new functions for the async semantics?  ie.
> > iommu_map_async(), etc.  The API also seems a little cleaner that
> > iommu_map() stands alone, it's synchronous, iommu_map_async() is
> > explicitly asynchronous and a _flush() call is needed to finalize it.
> > What do you see as the advantage to the approach here?  Thanks,  
> 
> The reason I did it this way was that I want the iommu_map(),
> iommu_unmap(), and iomu_map_sg() functions be considered the _default_
> to chose when using the IOMMU-API, because their use is faster than
> using the _sync() variants. Or in other words, I want the _sync function
> names to imply that they are slower versions of the default ones.

So _sync() does imply that they're slower, but iommu_map() does not
imply that a _flush() is required.  One is a performance issue, the
other is an API usability issue.  If the sync version is used
sub-optimally, it's a performance issue, not a correctness issue.  If
the async version is used without an explicit flush, it's a correctness
issue.  Therefore, I would lean towards making the asynchronous mode
explicit and providing good documentation and comments to steer
developers to the async version.  I think it makes the API harder to
use incorrectly.  Thanks,

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-17 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-17 12:56 [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 01/13] iommu/amd: Rename a few flush functions Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 02/13] iommu: Introduce Interface for IOMMU TLB Flushing Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 16:32   ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 16:50     ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 17:17       ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 21:20         ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-18 15:16           ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 03/13] vfio/type1: Use sychronized interface of the IOMMU-API Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 04/13] iommu/dma: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 05/13] arm: dma-mapping: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 06/13] drm/etnaviv: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 13:32   ` Lucas Stach
2017-08-17 13:45     ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 14:03       ` Lucas Stach
2017-08-17 14:18         ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 14:30           ` Lucas Stach
2017-08-17 14:35             ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 07/13] drm/msm: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-19 15:39   ` Rob Clark
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 08/13] drm/nouveau/imem/gk20a: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 09/13] drm/rockchip: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 10/13] drm/tegra: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 13:28   ` Thierry Reding
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 11/13] gpu: host1x: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 13:29   ` Thierry Reding
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 12/13] IB/usnic: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 13/13] remoteproc: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-24 19:06   ` Bjorn Andersson
2017-08-17 14:35 ` [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface Alex Williamson
2017-08-17 14:43   ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 14:54     ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2017-08-17 15:22       ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-23 12:09         ` Joerg Roedel

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