From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Byungchul Park <max.byungchul.park@gmail.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
johannes.berg@intel.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
tglx@linutronix.de,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kernel-team@lge.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] workqueue: remove manual lockdep uses to detect deadlocks
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:57:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170829185727.GY32112@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANrsvRP_os8F4qZSEo_cfuM1oBcMnUGx-H28kGfzv0OGmcygLg@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:49:26AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > However, how would it distinguish things like flushing another work
>
> I think it must be distinguished with what it actually waits for, e.i.
> completion
> variables instead of work or wq. I will make it next week and let you know.
So no. The existing annotations are strictly better than relying on
cross-release.
As you know the problem with cross-release is that it is timing
dependent. You need to actually observe the problematic sequence before
it can warn, and only the whole instance->class mapping saves us from
actually hitting the deadlock.
Cross-release can result in deadlocks without warnings. If you were to
run:
mutex_lock(A);
mutex_lock(A);
complete(C);
wait_for_completion(C);
You'd deadlock without issue. Only if we observe this:
mutex_lock(A);
wait_for_completion(C);
mutex_lock(A);
complete(C);
Where we acquire A after wait_for_completion() but before complete()
will we observe the deadlock.
The same would be true for using cross-release for workqueues as well,
something like:
W:
mutex_lock(A)
mutex_lock(A)
flush_work(W)
would go unreported whereas the current workqueue annotation will
generate a splat.
This does not mean cross-release isn't worth it, its better than nothing,
but its strictly weaker than traditional annotations.
So where a traditional annotation is possible, we should use them.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-29 18:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-25 8:41 [RFC] workqueue: remove manual lockdep uses to detect deadlocks Byungchul Park
2017-08-25 8:52 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-25 13:34 ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-25 15:49 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-29 18:57 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-08-30 1:53 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-30 6:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 0:23 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-28 6:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-28 10:53 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-29 0:55 ` Byungchul Park
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