From: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Byungchul Park <max.byungchul.park@gmail.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
johannes.berg@intel.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
tglx@linutronix.de,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kernel-team@lge.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] workqueue: remove manual lockdep uses to detect deadlocks
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:53:39 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170830015338.GD3240@X58A-UD3R> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170829185727.GY32112@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 08:57:27PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:49:26AM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > > However, how would it distinguish things like flushing another work
> >
> > I think it must be distinguished with what it actually waits for, e.i.
> > completion
> > variables instead of work or wq. I will make it next week and let you know.
>
> So no. The existing annotations are strictly better than relying on
> cross-release.
Thank you for exaplanation but, as I already said, this is why I said
"I don't think it's the same level currently. But, I can make it with
some modification." to TJ:
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1479560.html
And also I mentioned we might need the current code inevitably but, the
existing annotations are never good and why here:
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1480173.html
> As you know the problem with cross-release is that it is timing
> dependent. You need to actually observe the problematic sequence before
> it can warn, and only the whole instance->class mapping saves us from
> actually hitting the deadlock.
Of course.
> The same would be true for using cross-release for workqueues as well,
> something like:
>
> W:
> mutex_lock(A)
>
> mutex_lock(A)
> flush_work(W)
>
> would go unreported whereas the current workqueue annotation will
> generate a splat.
Of course.
That's why I said we need to work on it. But it should be modified so
that the wq code becomes more clear instead of abusing weird acquire()s.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-30 1:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-25 8:41 [RFC] workqueue: remove manual lockdep uses to detect deadlocks Byungchul Park
2017-08-25 8:52 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-25 13:34 ` Tejun Heo
2017-08-25 15:49 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-29 18:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30 1:53 ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2017-08-30 6:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-29 0:23 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-28 6:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-28 10:53 ` Byungchul Park
2017-08-29 0:55 ` Byungchul Park
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